No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service — and No Google Glass, Either 845
Seattle diners who want to take their food-tweeting pictures with Google glass were already facing a preemptively hostile environment; now (in a different restaurant), a diner's been asked to remove his Google Glass headset, or leave. He chose to leave. Maybe Faraday cages and anti-surveillance features will become the norm at the restaurants where things like Glass are most likely to appear.
Easy answer (Score:5, Interesting)
There's an easy fix to all of this- make a version of Google glass without a camera. Make a read-only device.
I want the Internet instantly accessible. That's far less intimidating that saying I want to upload everything you say and do around me.
Re:just leave (Score:5, Interesting)
This guy sounds like a whiny bitch (Score:5, Interesting)
"I would love an explanation, apology, clarification," Starr wrote on Facebook,
What more explanation do you need? Why do you believe you're owed an apology? What needs to be clarified?
"and if the staff member was in the wrong and lost the owner money last night and also future income as well, that this income be deducted from her pay or her termination."
Who the hell is this guy to think he knows best as to how the owner should handle their staff? I hope the staff member gets a bonus and a promotion for puncturing this self-inflated cock-womble's ego.
What a git.
Re:Different restaurant, same owner (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't live in Seattle, but if I did, I'd make it a point to find out what other establishments Mr. Meinert owns, and not patronize any of them.
Whereas the next time I'm in Seattle, I plan to visit all of them, and at each one buy a huge expensive meal at, and leave a giant tip with a "THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECORDING POLICY" written in big letters on the receipt.
Do you honestly think there are more people like you, or like me?
Happily I have plans to be in Seattle early next year so I can actually implement this plan.
Re:just leave (Score:3, Interesting)
Why? Do you complain about phones, security cameras, or hidden surveillance? You know what separates Google Glass from all of these? You know exactly when it's on an recording.
Also is that where society is heading now, that you leave bad reviews at a restaurant that offers patrons freedoms? I for one look forward to 5 star NSA sponsored restaurants.
People here in Seattle... (Score:0, Interesting)
hate Google. Nearly every day I hear someone spout the Bing propaganda. I use Google at work instead of Bing, and I have been threatened with getting fired and sued for that several times. The only thing that saved my ass the last time was that I showed our HR director that none of the results in the first ten pages of the Microsoft Bing results included the term I was searching for. Microsoft Bing is a complete joke, and I'm really getting tired of people getting so upset and screaming anti-Google garbage. There's even one Microsoft-cultist that carries an anti-Google sign outside of our office. If you've ever been to Bellevue, WA, especially around 8th and Bellevue Way, then you've seen this guy. That Microsoft guy has carried that sign for more than five years. He quit his job so he would have more time to stand on the sidewalk and scream his pro-Microsoft messages. Microsoft people are scary.
Re:just leave (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Just imagine (Score:4, Interesting)
Yes, we might finally get a court ruling that the Civil Rights Act is blatantly unconstitutional because it infringes on the property owner's right to refuse service to anyone for *any* reason, and the resulting crazy would be fun to watch from the other side of the ocean.
Re:Easy answer (Score:2, Interesting)
I'm assuming, based on your response, that you are a Glass user. If that is the case, then I must ask you, would you prefer being barred from establishments because of Glass, or being allowed in, but with reduced functionality? Right now, without the shutter lock, you're stuck with the former, while a shutter lock would enable the latter. This is a good thing, overall, though it does mean you would have to buy a *new* new toy, since your current toy doesn't have the shutter lock. Plight of the early-adopter.
Re:Easy answer (Score:4, Interesting)
Making it obvious is very easy - just add an indicator that would clearly tell everyone that device is in a recording mode. Legislate a standard way of doing so if necessary (e.g. a purple LED, no less than X nits bright - not many of those around).
Privacy is important, but you don't have an unlimited expectation of privacy everywhere you go. It is balanced against the rights of others, including, for example, the right to take photos or video recordings of public places - you don't get to demand that they stop doing so just because you happen to be in the picture, unless you're specifically being the target.
Re:Not a Glass fan but (Score:4, Interesting)
Why would I want to live in that society? I want to live in a society where people have to ask permission to take pictures of people, even in public. How is that outragous?
Fundamentally, I think limitations on photography will get people to do more interestingthigns in public (without the permenant record). Therefore, it's in society's best interests to regulating filimng people in public. In resturants/bars by owners is a good start. By the government would be a better one.
Obviously, there is some fine line out there. People in the background of shots. But, ultimately, I would think software could handle that (autoblurring background faces.)
Re:Not a Glass fan but (Score:5, Interesting)
I could for instance hold my phone exactly where a normal person holds their phone while talking, at my ear, except with the camera pointed at you.
This is not a common way to use a cell phone. Sure, you can put it in your front pocket and set to record... but this is very uncommon, and there is no peer pressure to do so. Maybe some boys and girls will want to do that one day, but the video will not go anywhere. Most likely it will be deleted right after filming because watching a lengthy segment of nothing in particular is work, not fun. A GG video will be processed by a robot, and it will see everything that is worth seeing.
GG promotes and rewards filming. GG wearers are already pushing the limits, as this whole discussion shows. Do you want a worldwide Internet competition for the funniest (not to you!) video taken by GG? Your image, and your privacy, will be converted into jokes for other people. Do you want everyone you know to see yourself slipping and falling in the street one day? Making a mistake that normally would be remembered by humans who happened to witness it? Doing something that would *seem* wrong?
Yes, it is already possible to do something like that with cell phones. And we have YouTube to dump all that garbage into. However GG is a significant enhancement of such recording. The people around GG wearer do not know when the GG is recording; and the GG is already in position to start recording.
There are millions of reasons to be wary of GG. For details, please review the video "Don't talk to the police." There the professor gives several examples of how your innocent behavior can get you convicted. GG will be used by the police; and since all the records are at Google, you do not have an option of unseeing something - even if you really, really want to. Today you are protected from being a witness against yourself. What if tomorrow you wear a GG and get into a situation? Your GG video will be subpoenaed, and you will have no say in it. Maybe it will save you; maybe it will doom you. I would rather prefer doubt - it is interpreted in favor of the accused. GG will remove the doubt, even if the recording does not show the whole picture.