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The NSA Is Looking For a Few Good Geeks 388

itwbennett writes "Dan Tynan noticed something curious when he was reading a TechCrunch story (about Google's mystery barges, as it happens). There was a banner ad promoting careers at the NSA — and this was no ad-serving network fluke. Tynan visited the TechCrunch site on three different machines, and saw an NSA ad every time. In one version of the ad, a male voice says, 'There are activities that I've worked on that make, you know, front page headlines. And I can say, I know all about that, I had a hand in that. The things that happen here at NSA really have national and world ramifications.'"
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The NSA Is Looking For a Few Good Geeks

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  • by JohnFen ( 1641097 ) on Friday November 08, 2013 @04:55PM (#45372205)

    In the context of the NSA's activities, my answer is "the fourth amendment."

  • Re:Good geeks? (Score:4, Informative)

    by JohnFen ( 1641097 ) on Friday November 08, 2013 @05:02PM (#45372289)

    This is exactly right, and those kinds of geeks are not "good" geeks. They are a kind of evil themselves.

    Your rocket scientist reference is both correct and a good example of that: Oppenheimer famously replied to someone asking if he was bothered by the fact that his work was being used to kill lots of innocent people and his response was that his only worry was getting them to go up. It was someone else's job to worry about where they come down.

    That's pure evil, right there.

  • by epyT-R ( 613989 ) on Friday November 08, 2013 @05:04PM (#45372309)

    The NSA is supposed to spy.. just not on civilian americans.

  • by rk ( 6314 ) on Friday November 08, 2013 @05:06PM (#45372329) Journal

    It doesn't say it directly, but one of the big reasons that some of the people responsible for the constitution didn't want the Bill of Rights was for that reason: They didn't want those to be interpreted as the only rights people had. To placate that argument is why the 9th amendment exists. It turns out that those people were exactly right because many make the assumption those are your only rights, even WITH the 9th amendment in place.

    Courts have repeatedly held that there is a de facto right to some level of privacy, regardless of its lack of constitutional enumeration, in part because it's highly implied by several of the amendments, especially the 4th.

  • by Somebody Is Using My ( 985418 ) on Friday November 08, 2013 @05:16PM (#45372441) Homepage

    Just an important reminder:

    The US Constitution does not GIVE us rights. It enumerates areas where we allow the government to infringe upon our rights for the good of the nation. The first ten Amendments define some of our inalienable rights but are not a complete listing. Just because the right of privacy is not mentioned is not to imply it does not exist and cannot be claimed.

    While I am sure most people on this site (and probably the poster to whom I am responding as well) are aware of this, I feel it is still an important distinction to be made. Our language dictates our thoughts and actions; let's be clear on this very important matter. We live in an era when there is an increasing belief that our governments have rightful sway over all aspects of our lives and are the source of all corporal power. This is in direct contradiction to the intent of the so-called "Founding Fathers", where the freedom and liberty of the individual were paramount and were only sacrificed - by the individuals - for the advantage of the common weal.

    That is, the direction of power is from the people down to the government, and not the other way around. The people dictate, not the politicians. We willingly give, they do not grudgingly grant. Take and hold onto your rights; they are yours from birth, not a gift bestowed upon you by self-important men.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 08, 2013 @05:27PM (#45372555)

    m.imdb.com/title/tt0119217/quotes?qt=qt0408102

    Why shouldn't I work for the N.S.A.? That's a tough one, but I'll take a shot.
    Say I'm working at N.S.A. Somebody puts a code on my desk, something nobody else can break.
    Maybe I take a shot at it and maybe I break it. And I'm real happy with myself, 'cause I did my job well.
    But maybe that code was the location of some rebel army in North Africa or the Middle East.
    Once they have that location, they bomb the village where the rebels were hiding and fifteen hundred people I never met, never had no problem with, get killed.
    Now the politicians are sayin', "Oh, send in the Marines to secure the area" 'cause they don't give a
    shit. It won't be their kid over there, gettin' shot.
    Just like it wasn't them when their number got called, 'cause they were pullin' a tour in the National Guard. It'll be some kid from Southie takin' shrapnel in the ass.
    And he comes back to find that the plant he used to work at got exported to the country he just got back from. And the guy who put the shrapnel in his ass got his old job, 'cause he'll work for fifteen cents a day and no bathroom breaks. Meanwhile, he realizes the only reason he was over there in the first place was so we could install a government that would sell us oil at a good price.
    And, of course, the oil companies used the skirmish over there to scare up domestic oil prices. A cute little
    ancillary benefit for them, but it ain't helping my buddy at two-fifty a gallon. And they're takin' their sweet time bringin' the oil back, of course,
    and maybe even took the liberty of hiring an alcoholic skipper who likes to drink martinis and fuckin' play slalom with the icebergs, and it ain't too long 'til he hits one, spills the oil and kills all the sea life in the North Atlantic.
    So now my buddy's out of work and he can't afford to drive, so he's got to walk to the fuckin' job interviews, which sucks 'cause the shrapnel in his ass is givin' him chronic hemorrhoids.
    And meanwhile he's starvin', 'cause every time he tries to get a bite to eat, the only blue plate special they're servin' is North Atlantic scrod with Quaker State.
    So what did I think? I'm holdin' out for somethin' better.
    I figure fuck it, while I'm at it why not just shoot my buddy, take his job, give it to his sworn enemy, hike up gas prices, bomb a village, club a baby seal, hit the
    hash pipe and join the National Guard? I could be elected president.

  • Re:Good geeks? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Galatamon ( 1771768 ) on Friday November 08, 2013 @05:34PM (#45372625)
    Pretty sure you're thinking of Von Braun [youtu.be].

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