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GCHQ, European Spy Agencies Cooperate On Surveillance 145

jones_supa writes "Edward Snowden papers unmask that the German, French, Spanish and Swedish intelligence services have all developed methods of mass surveillance of internet and phone traffic over the past five years in close partnership with Britain's GCHQ eavesdropping agency. The bulk monitoring is carried out through direct taps into fibre optic cables and the development of covert relationships with telecommunications companies. A loose but growing eavesdropping alliance has allowed intelligence agencies from one country to cultivate ties with corporations from another to facilitate the trawling of the web. The files also make clear that GCHQ played a leading role in advising its European counterparts how to work around national laws intended to restrict the surveillance power of intelligence agencies."
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GCHQ, European Spy Agencies Cooperate On Surveillance

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  • It's all a sham (Score:5, Informative)

    by msobkow ( 48369 ) on Saturday November 02, 2013 @03:35PM (#45313027) Homepage Journal

    The whole "anti-terrorism" excuse is a sham. The NSA has already been providing the DEA with information about drug deals they've intercepted. We know that for a fact.

    But when pressured, they can't itemize a list of the terrorist operations they've intercepted and stopped. They toss out vague numbers in the 40s after over a decade of surveillance. So even if they're exagerrating, that's only 4 per year!

    From a cruelly financial perspective, it would have been far cheaper to just pay the death benefits to the families of the few people who might have died than to pay the untold billions the NSA, GCHQ, CSEC, et. al. have cost to operate.

  • Re:It's all a sham (Score:4, Informative)

    by Jah-Wren Ryel ( 80510 ) on Saturday November 02, 2013 @05:54PM (#45313981)

    The biggest fish they've bragged about is some cabbie in LA and his friends who sent a whopping $8500 to some terrorist group in Africa

    Not to mention that the reason he sent the money seems to have been a tribal issue, as in a bribe/tribute so his family back home would get better treatment from the guys running the town who also happened to be members of the terrorist group.

    Meanwhile, under oath Alexander was forced to walk back their big claim of foiling 54 plots.

    http://www.salon.com/2013/10/02/nsa_director_admits_to_misleading_public_on_terror_plots/ [salon.com]

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