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New EU Rules To Curb Transfer of European Data To the U.S. 60

Posted by Soulskill
from the international-snowden-fallout dept.
dryriver points out a report at The Guardian about new regulations in the European Union that are intended to protect data from foreign government agencies like the NSA. Quoting: "New European rules aimed at curbing questionable transfers of data from E.U. countries to the U.S. are being finalized in Brussels in the first concrete reaction to the Edward Snowden disclosures on U.S. and British mass surveillance of digital communications. Regulations on European data protection standards are expected to pass the European parliament committee stage on Monday after the various political groupings agreed on a new compromise draft following two years of gridlock on the issue. The draft would make it harder for the big U.S. internet servers and social media providers to transfer European data to third countries, subject them to E.U. law rather than secret American court orders, and authorize swingeing fines possibly running into the billions for the first time for not complying with the new rules. ... The current rules are easily sidestepped by the big Silicon Valley companies, Brussels argues. The new rules, if agreed, would ban the transfer of data unless based on E.U. law or under a new transatlantic pact with the Americans complying with E.U. law. ... The proposed ban has been revived directly as a result of the uproar over operations by the U.S.'s National Security Agency."
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New EU Rules To Curb Transfer of European Data To the U.S.

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    Slashdot is about to SHUT DOWN get ready people this is it... THIS IS TEH SLAPOCALYPSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Excellent (Score:4, Funny)

    by CaptainOfSpray (1229754) on Friday October 18, 2013 @05:57PM (#45170201)
    I'm delighted.
    Pity they couldn't ban GCHQ from reading any of it.
    • Re: Excellent (Score:4, Interesting)

      by tolkienfan (892463) on Friday October 18, 2013 @06:04PM (#45170247) Journal
      Bingo. This looks promising but GHCQ does the NSAs dirty work and vice versa. And nothing except US limiting the NSA will stop the NSA from using exploits to get the data anyway.
      • by icebike (68054)

        Don't forget the Bundesnachrichtendienst. Or the DGSE the DCRI, the CESIS, and 10 or more others.

        The truth is, there will be no difference, EU data can't be protected from EU intelligence services, and
        their partnerships and agreements with each other and with the NSA.

        In fact, having to convince a US judge to issue a warrant for a EU government to Google, Facebook, Amazon, or any of the other
        big players was probably a significant expense and impediment to EU police.

        Tell you what, The EU can host all US dat

      • by AmiMoJo (196126) *

        Sure, but the key difference is that GCHQ is subject to EU laws and the European courts. There are already private legal challenges under way and the EU is considering what action to take. On the other hand the EU can't regulate the NSA at all.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Expect more datacenters on European soil. This addresses the problem of bulk data transfer and storage.

    In other words, the analytics will only get better.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      ...is a gradual loss of US competitiveness. As it now appears, US government is the worst violator my privacy interests. Therefore as (human rights) self defense I will be looking every purchase through the US / non-US lens, probably ad infinitum. Of course, I will actively avoid paying a penny that would later be used for financing the NSA budget - you'd do the same. And I know I'm not the only one. As an EU citizen I think its very sad it has come to this - I really liked USA for a long time.

  • So, they're going to make US Internet companies subject to EU laws rather than American laws?

    Somehow, I don't think that's going to work as well as they (pretend to) think it will....

    • So, they're going to make US Internet companies subject to EU laws rather than American laws?

      Somehow, I don't think that's going to work as well as they (pretend to) think it will....

      Why not, when so many companies have their "headquarters" in some EU tax haven?

    • by Tom (822)

      You are living in a fantasy world. You think there is such a thing as a "US company". You really think those companies have the slightest bit of patriotism? Most of them already route most of their profits through some tax haven in order to not pay a dime more in taxes in the US than they absolutely have to.

      • by manu0601 (2221348)
        A US company is a company whose leaders are reachable by US courts, and will therefore comply to anything requested by the US, otherwise they go to jail.
        • by Tom (822)

          Again, you are deluded. The 0.1% have already reached what many of us dream of: True international citizenship. They have homes, offices and wealth wherever they want. Right now, the US is attractive to many of them due to excellent infrastructure, security, health care (they can afford it) and so on.

          But look to Europe. Tons of celebrities have their official homes in Monaco, for tax reasons. Same thing as with companies, just on a personal level.

          If the US were to change its laws in any dramatic way that pi

          • by manu0601 (2221348)
            I am not sure even a rich person wants to live with many territories, waters and airspace forbidden because of the risk of being arrested. Look at Edward Snowden, trapped in Russia even while he has support from three Latin America nations, and is backed by the powerful fund-gathering Wikileaks (they even proposed him a private jet!)
            • by Tom (822)

              Of course not, comfort means everything to those people.

              But that, exactly, is the point: It's not patriotism. It's about personal well-being.

              • by manu0601 (2221348)
                Which means law can constrain them, it just has to make compliance less painful than resistance.
    • by gl4ss (559668)

      are you implying that they'll just take up and leave from the EU?

      that might be swell. we would finally get a new search competitor.

  • This is more about Hitting back at US companies like Google and Facebook
  • Oh great, now that we finally are getting seeing the light at the end of the tunnel for protectionism of trade in goods, now we are going to have protectionism for data!

    Do you think the US will retaliate and force data on US citizens to not be stored in Europe?

    • by johanw (1001493)

      Who cares wether US data is stored in Europe? The other way aroundis much more dangerous.

      I hope this law will give rise to morecompanies who will refuse to have any representation in the US because it can lead to expensive fines. Perhaps, in time, the US will start to listen to others when their economy crumbles even more and they go down the way any empire has in time.

    • by rtb61 (674572)

      Retaliate? I don't think you have the right idea about the right to privacy, it wouldn't be retaliation, it would be a reasonable law. Time to lock down and even ban the trade in private data.

  • by ISoldat53 (977164)
    The EU better be careful or Wall Street will get mad.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Europe probably don't give a flying fuck what Wall Street think, at all.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      WHAHAHAHAHA....
      like wallstreet even matters to the world anymore... (Psst, wallstreet isn't real to 95% of the world)

  • There are all sorts of cooperation treaties between EU and the US. All will happen is more stuff will move into organizations like NATO.

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