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Martin Luther King Jr's Children In Court Over MLK IP 344

cervesaebraciator writes "Slashdot has reported before about the copyright nightmare of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s 'I Have a Dream' Speech. Now, questions of intellectual property and the legacy of Dr. King have caused his children to go to court. The estate, run by King's sons, claims the rights to the intellectual property and memorabilia of Dr. King as assets. Accordingly, it has filed suit against the non-profit Martin Luther King Jr. Center for Nonviolent Change, run by King's daughter, for plans to continue using King memorabilia once a royalty-free licensing agreement expires, (which the estate says will be in September). As is the case with increasing frequency, one is left to wonder about the implications intellectual property claims have for free speech when they can be applied to so public a figure as Dr. King."
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Martin Luther King Jr's Children In Court Over MLK IP

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  • Parasitic leeches. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @02:49PM (#44759177)

    Dr. King was certainly a very positive agent of change in the world. Too bad his children now exemplify everything that is wrong with it.

  • I don't think... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @02:49PM (#44759185)

    I don't think this was part of King's dream.

  • I have a dream (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SleazyRidr ( 1563649 ) on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @02:50PM (#44759189)

    I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will be judged not by the color of their skin but by the contents of their IP portfolio. Where they can use their last name to profit from my legacy.

  • by Russ1642 ( 1087959 ) on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @02:53PM (#44759239)

    ...that my children will undo everything positive about my life.

  • Re:End of a Dream (Score:5, Insightful)

    by meerling ( 1487879 ) on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @03:02PM (#44759327)
    As far as I'm concerned (ianal), the "I have a dream" speech was a historical, public, and defining of an important part of our society. It can't be copyrighted. Any lowlife trying to capitalize on that should be thrown in jail.
  • Re:End of a Dream (Score:5, Insightful)

    by AlphaWolf_HK ( 692722 ) on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @03:04PM (#44759351)

    MLK's legacy has largely been decimated by those who claim to support him the most.

    One of his most famous sayings was that he had a dream that his four children would not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

    People like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who are now seen as civil rights leaders, basically threw that out completely.and shit on it at almost every turn. Groups like the NAACP are pushing for criminal prosecution of, for example, the rodeo clown who made fun of Obama, even though people in much bigger areas of the limelight have done much worse things to make fun of other presidents. George Zimmerman would never have seen prosecution if he was black or Trayvon was white; guilty or not the evidence just wasn't there which is why they originally chose not to prosecute, and only did so after pressure from racial groups, which goes to show that in America, now the only requirement for prosecution is that public opinion be against you regardless of whether or not you can be proven guilty.

    And how are programs like affirmative action following in that spirit? They tell you that, for example, if you have slanted eyes then you immediately deserve lower preference than anybody, but if you have black skin then you automatically get to be first in line.

    What a joke the civil rights movement has become.

  • Copywritten? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by chrismcb ( 983081 ) on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @03:13PM (#44759431) Homepage
    I wondered how this speech could even be copyrighted, as apparently it wasn't registered. Mr wiki says there was a lawsuit a few years ago to determine whether the speech was copyrighted or not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_a_Dream [wikipedia.org]
    What I don't get is, Mr wiki also claims the speech is under copyright for 120 years, but shouldn't it have been death + 50 years?
    The worst part about it, is I find it difficult to believe that someone who made a speech like that would not want it in the public domain. Not having it in the public domain sort of defeats the purpose of the speech.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @03:19PM (#44759509)

    So that somehow changes his message? Or are you saying people never do anything wrong if they are christian?

    1+1=2 would be wrong under your definition because someone who taught it is a hypocrite.

  • Re:End of a Dream (Score:0, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @03:28PM (#44759617)

    George Zimmerman would never have seen prosecution if he was black or Trayvon was white

    Are you kidding?! George Zimmerman would have been put away for life if he was black and Trayvon was white. Unarmed white kid killed by a black man who stalked and harassed him?

  • Re:End of a Dream (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TWiTfan ( 2887093 ) on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @03:34PM (#44759693)

    he had a dream that his four children would not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

    In that case, they've been judged a bunch of selfish, greedy pricks.

  • Re:End of a Dream (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Synerg1y ( 2169962 ) on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @03:36PM (#44759717)

    Prison and jail ethnic population statistics answer that question unceremoniously. You have a huge advantage and the benefit of the doubt in the legal system just by being white. I'll also mention for like billionth time: ZIMMERMAN ISNT OR WILL BE WHITE... fuck cnn.

  • Re:End of a Dream (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Princeofcups ( 150855 ) <john@princeofcups.com> on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @03:51PM (#44759881) Homepage

    People like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, who are now seen as civil rights leaders, basically threw that out completely.and shit on it at almost every turn. Groups like the NAACP are pushing for criminal prosecution of, for example, the rodeo clown who made fun of Obama, even though people in much bigger areas of the limelight have done much worse things to make fun of other presidents. George Zimmerman would never have seen prosecution if he was black or Trayvon was white; guilty or not the evidence just wasn't there which is why they originally chose not to prosecute, and only did so after pressure from racial groups, which goes to show that in America, now the only requirement for prosecution is that public opinion be against you regardless of whether or not you can be proven guilty.

    And how are programs like affirmative action following in that spirit? They tell you that, for example, if you have slanted eyes then you immediately deserve lower preference than anybody, but if you have black skin then you automatically get to be first in line.

    What a joke the civil rights movement has become.

    Nice spin. Great the way you worked your agenda in there, in the guise of "well if this is true, then the rest of what I have to say must be true to." Considering that King was reviled by a large hunk of America, and still is (see "Robert E. Lee Day), I guess the current civil rights leaders must be doing a decent job. From where I'm standing, Zimmerman was about a crazy vigilante who got off because his victim was black and the trial was in Florida. Quite different from your perspective.

  • Re:End of a Dream (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Nerdfest ( 867930 ) on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @03:51PM (#44759883)

    The way to eliminate racism is not by perpetuating it.

  • Re:End of a Dream (Score:5, Insightful)

    by AlphaWolf_HK ( 692722 ) on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @04:30PM (#44760309)

    In the 1700's and 1800's we had a concept called fighting words. If somebody used "fighting words" (words that provoked a fight) then that person was responsible for whatever happened afterwards.

    That concept sort of fell apart when it became questionable what constituted fighting words, and what constituted provocation. So, the new standard became whoever made the first physical assault was then responsible. Both the physical evidence and witness testimony showed that it was indeed Trayvon who not only initiated physical contact, but also caused physical injuries and was seen straddling Zimmerman. That is why Zimmerman was found not guilty, and it is also why they chose not to prosecute him in the beginning. It was only after public pressure, and public pressure alone, not evidence or anything else, which is why this went to trial. Also contrary to popular opinion, "stand your ground" was never used as a defense in this case.

    The detectives themselves who investigated the case didn't even want to prosecute it, by the way, because they believed Zimmerman to be innocent. One of the things that convince me personally that Zimmerman is telling the truth is that one of the detectives told Zimmerman that they had the incident on camera, to which Zimmerman replied "thank god" without even thinking about it.

    Besides, if we stuck to "being followed" as a justification for turning around and pummeling somebody's head against concrete, I'd sure hate to be a mall cop.

  • Re:End of a Dream (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Penguinisto ( 415985 ) on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @04:46PM (#44760495) Journal

    Considering that King was reviled by a large hunk of America, and still is (see "Robert E. Lee Day)

    Great. Now I have an image of Dr. King astride a warhorse, leading his sword at full gallop, and charging Confederate positions alongside Sherman in Atlanta.

    What the hell, dude?

    Let's get a couple of things straight here...

    Point The First: Historical celebrations of events long passed does not automatically denote an adherence to the babblings of some backwoods sheet-donning inbred.

    Point The Second: while racism is certainly not dead yet, I can tell you for damned certain that it's currently suffering from a fatal case of terminal neglect. Clue: *ACTUAL* racism has faded so badly that certain ideologues have to invent new meanings of the word (e.g. "I disagree with Obama" == "racist" in some quarters), just to keep the outrage flowing and (more importantly) the campaign coffers full.

    Point The Third: Jesse Jackson and his ilk have been waving Dr. King's bloody shirt for decades now, shaking down individuals and corporations alike for agreement, compliance, and (again, more importantly) money. They have contributed absolutely nothing towards the elimination of racial hatred, and I daresay they have incited more than a little.

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @05:11PM (#44760725)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by flimflammer ( 956759 ) on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @05:24PM (#44760849)

    Greed? Yeah, I'd say that's pretty much the basis for almost everything wrong with the world, when it comes to mankind.

  • Re:End of a Dream (Score:5, Insightful)

    by cayenne8 ( 626475 ) on Wednesday September 04, 2013 @06:13PM (#44761267) Homepage Journal

    No, drug use does not indicate him being a bad person. His attacking someone out on the street indicates he was a bad person. His portrayed persona of being a gangsta wannabe with pictures of him holding guns gives some indication that he wanted to be a bad person. His racial slurs indicates he has little respect for other tells me he was a bad person. I don't miss him and think it is good he was shot. More like him should get what they have coming.

    And funny...you don't see Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson raising a ruckus over the recent killing of a white man from Australia, by some black kids...shooting him in the back with no interaction at all. One of the black kids, has posts out that are extremely racist.

    But then again..that won't put money in Al or Jesse's pocket.

    The civil rights "movement" has become the civil rights "industry" where there is money to be made by black "leaders" race baiting blacks against whites.

    Hell, if MLK's dream came true...they'd be out of a fucking job.

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