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UK ISP Filter Will Censor More Than Porn 329

Posted by timothy
from the knows-it-when-it-sees-it dept.
The UK's on-by-default censorship, as you might expect, presses with a heavy thumb: coolnumbr12 writes "The Open Rights Group spoke with several ISPs and found that in addition to pornography, users will also be required to opt in for any content tagged as violent material, extremist and terrorist related content, anorexia and eating disorder websites, suicide related websites, alcohol, smoking, web forums, esoteric material and web blocking circumvention tools. These will all be filtered by default, and the majority of users never change default settings with online services."
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UK ISP Filter Will Censor More Than Porn

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 27, 2013 @05:56AM (#44398107)

    I'm a school governor here in the UK. We will not be in a position to 'Opt Out' of this blocking for our School'. I expect it to be the same for universities. I would also image that Corporate Governance would find it very difficult to opt out too. So just forget the internet at all those places.

  • Re:"Web forums" (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 27, 2013 @06:22AM (#44398183)

    Not later, now!

    Cameron has already stated that the list should be available to police and Social Services.

    Social Services have said they would like to use the list to determine custody of children.

  • by SuricouRaven (1897204) on Saturday July 27, 2013 @06:26AM (#44398191)

    About 2004: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2004/291004toystore.htm [prisonplanet.com]

    The DHS enforces patent and trademark law. The official justification is that patents are vital to US economic prosperity, prosperity is part of national security, therefore patent infringement is a threat to national security.

  • by SuricouRaven (1897204) on Saturday July 27, 2013 @07:50AM (#44398455)

    Be fair to him: It was a political marriage, and he did manage to postpone the sex - she was six or seven when they married. By the standards of the time, eleven wasn't shockingly young - people didn't live as a long, so there was a lot of pressure to start breeding as soon and as many as possible.

    He'd be a pedophile by the standards of our time, and we'd lock him up for at least a few decades. But by t his own culture, this was really nothing exceptional. Political marriage to children was a common practice, and girls/women were generally considered ready for breeding at their first period - the point at which they were known to be fertile.

    It is true that in many Islamic countries, Aisha and the 'if Mohammed did it' argument are used to justify very low age of consent laws. Egypt was discussing a proposed law that would have reduced the age of consent for both sex and marriage for girls to 9 (or 11, it wasn't decided) in line with Aisha, until recent events left their legislative processes on hold.

  • by julian67 (1022593) on Saturday July 27, 2013 @07:57AM (#44398489)

    I'm a customer of the ISP in question, TalkTalk.

    I do *NOT* have to individually opt-in to "content tagged as violent, extremist, terrorist, anorexia and eating disorders, suicide, alcohol, smoking, web forums, esoteric material and web-blocking circumvention tools".

    I unchecked *ONE* box so that my broadband service is unfiltered. That's all. Those fine grain options become available if *YOU* *CHOOSE* filtering. *YOU* have the control and the choice!

    People keep acting outraged and presenting this measure as censorship. This is not censorship. Censorship is when the decision to filter content and the selection of what is to be filtered is *outside of your control*. This filtering is entirely and 100% within the control of the account holder. You can switch it on or off at will.

    The people who don't have control: minors, customers using your wifi, house guests, or anyone else who has no business accessing your internet account.

    The people who do have control: you (the actual legal account owner), and anyone you authorise/enable to manage your ISP account.

  • by serviscope_minor (664417) on Saturday July 27, 2013 @08:43AM (#44398663) Journal

    When I got 3G on my phone, I had to call them to unblock the porn filters because I wanted to read slashdot. Seriously. It is blocked as a forum and therefore "adult material". I've never downloaded porn on my phone.

    Oddly though the mobile ISPs only filtered data being displayed on the phone, plugging it in and having it presented as a CDC modem device and connecting over PPP went through a different machanism and did not cause filtering. That's a curious aside.

    The reason that it is a good thing that everything of interest will be blocked is that it massively removes the stigma from getting it unblocked.

    While the whole thing is full of stupidity, if it's so stupid then there is less useful information to have on people if they unblock. This (or a massive U turn) is the best we can hope for.

  • by Patch86 (1465427) on Saturday July 27, 2013 @09:26AM (#44398849)

    Indeed, young marriages were common in Medieval Europe far later than Mohammed's time. Mohammed died in 632 AD. Take this list of marriages from some random website:

    Bianca of Savoy, Duchess of Milan was married aged 13yo (1350), and aged 14yo when she gave birth to her eldest son, Giangaleazzo (1351).
    Theodora Comnena was aged 13yo when she was married King Baldwin III of Jerusalem (1158).
    Agnes of France was 12yo when, widowed, she was married to Andronicus Comnenus, Byzantine Emperor (1182).
    St Elizabeth of Portugal was aged 12yo when she was married to King Denis of Portugal and gave birth to three children shortly thereafter.
    Caterina Sforza was betrothed aged 9yo, married aged 14yo, and gave birth aged 15yo.
    Lucrezia Borgia was married to her first husband aged 13yo and bore a son within a few years.
    Beatrice d'Este was betrothed aged 5yo and married aged 15yo.

    And that's us "civilised Christian folk". Racism is a subtle creature...

  • Re:What a surprise (Score:4, Informative)

    by BobTheLawyer (692026) on Saturday July 27, 2013 @10:28AM (#44399219)

    That post is not remotely correct.

    Some of the items on the list are laws enacted after the Human Rights Act, but they are not exceptions to it - the Human Rights Act has priority.

    Others - sedition and advocating the abolition of the monarchy - were criminal offences two hundred years ago, but there have been no prosecutions in recent times and the courts have acknowledged that the idea any prosecution would survive an HRA challenge is "unreal" (see Lord Steyn's judgment in the ex parte Rushbridger case).

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