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An anonymous reader writes "A Swedish professor of sociology has nominated Snowden for the 2014 Nobel Peace Prize. Giving him the prize would also 'save the Nobel Peace Prize from the disrepute that incurred by the hasty and ill-conceived decision to award U.S. President Barack Obama' the prize, according to professor Stefan Svallfors. He notes ultimately that at great personal cost, 'Edward Snowden has helped to make the world a little bit better and safer.'"
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Edward Snowden Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize

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  • Definitely... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Smivs (1197859) <smivs@smivsonline.co.uk> on Monday July 15, 2013 @08:52AM (#44283149) Homepage Journal
    a good idea. This would send a positive message to arrogant governments everywhere.
    • Re:Definitely... (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Xest (935314) on Monday July 15, 2013 @08:54AM (#44283159)

      Even better, take Obama's away and give it to Snowden.

      • Re:Definitely... (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Joce640k (829181) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:01AM (#44283223) Homepage

        Mod parent up.

        How the leader of one of the most warmongering nations on Earth got awarded a Nobel Peace Prize is beyond me.

        • Re:Definitely... (Score:5, Insightful)

          by gl4ss (559668) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:06AM (#44283265) Homepage Journal

          Mod parent up.

          How the leader of one of the most warmongering nations on Earth got awarded a Nobel Peace Prize is beyond me.

          well, he promised to shutdown gitmo, bring peace to middle east, stop collateral killings when killing people branded criminals without a trial etc.. you know, change. surely he should have managed to do at least one of them...

          • Re:Definitely... (Score:5, Insightful)

            by 1s44c (552956) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:18AM (#44283417)

            He lied his ass off to get elected you mean? Just like every other elected politician.

          • Re:Definitely... (Score:5, Insightful)

            by JackieBrown (987087) <dbroome@gmail.com> on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:19AM (#44283429)

            That's why you give prizes to people after they complete the task.

            • Re:Definitely... (Score:5, Insightful)

              by hendrikboom (1001110) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:27AM (#44283507)

              The Nobel peace prize, unlike the other Nobel prizes, s often given while a peace process is under way, as an encouragement. Yes, they often fail.

            • Re:Definitely... (Score:5, Interesting)

              by SJHillman (1966756) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:30AM (#44283535)

              You haven't been to an American public school lately, have you? You get a prize for showing up (even if you don't). Then another prize for competing (regardless of effort), then another prize for the winning (you didn't lose, you just got fourth place out of four). And then everyone gets some pizza and calls it a day.

              • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

                by Anonymous Coward

                Damn, I went to school at the wrong time. My prize was not being beaten senseless in some sort of an attack with racial undertones, sometimes I didn't get to collect the prize...

              • by sl4shd0rk (755837)

                You get a prize for showing up (even if you don't).

                Well, everyone gets a prize so kids know the world has no racism, favoritism, classism, religiousim or sexualism. If they grew up knowing the truth, nobody would stay here and pay taxes.

        • Re:Definitely... (Score:4, Insightful)

          by postbigbang (761081) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:08AM (#44283301)

          I fear Snowden will be a martyr. Plentiful people in power don't like it when their secretive ops and motives are exposed for the world to see. The sausage of politics is ugly enough. Snowden is a modern-day Sinclair Lewis in that regard.

          Obama's premature prize baffles me, save that in his own country, there are plentiful people in power that didn't want an individual outside of their control to take power. Given Obama's unfulfilled promises, they needn't have bothered in their worry.

          • Re:Definitely... (Score:5, Insightful)

            by jittles (1613415) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:21AM (#44283451)

            I fear Snowden will be a martyr. Plentiful people in power don't like it when their secretive ops and motives are exposed for the world to see. The sausage of politics is ugly enough. Snowden is a modern-day Sinclair Lewis in that regard.

            Obama's premature prize baffles me, save that in his own country, there are plentiful people in power that didn't want an individual outside of their control to take power. Given Obama's unfulfilled promises, they needn't have bothered in their worry.

            I"m surprised to see that you think that Obama was ever out of someones control. His meteoric rise to political power was so fast that I find it hard to believe he doesn't have some very rich and powerful people calling most of his shots. Did anyone really know his name prior to the 2004 Democratic Convention? I certainly had not really heard his name until the 2008 Democratic Primary began.

            In any event, I don't see how anyone can become a politician at that level in this country without being corrupt. Which is why we need to fix the system.

            • Re:Definitely... (Score:4, Insightful)

              by SJHillman (1966756) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:34AM (#44283581)

              To be fair, a good majority of presidential candidates go unknown by the general public until they run for that office. Of course there are exceptions, such as Hilary Clinton, because she was the First Lady (she is a lady, right?) or they're involved in some major news headlines. But seriously, how many of our current 535 Congressman (assuming all the posts are currently filled, I haven't checked) or 50 state governors can you name? Especially ones that don't represent you? And those are just the two major pools presidential candidates come from, but they could come from many other places. So it should be no surprise that you've never heard of someone if they haven't given you a reason to.

              • Re:Definitely... (Score:5, Insightful)

                by postbigbang (761081) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:41AM (#44283681)

                Odd that you should cite this.

                Obama replaced Ryan, an Illinois senatorial scumbag. Illinois is a hotbed of political chicanery.

                I can recall probably 120 reps, half the senate and each and every president and VP. My faculties are different than most Americans. I voted for Obama in both presidential elections based on hope, the hope that there might be some political change away from the corruption we now face in the US. I wanted to see the vacuous wars stanched to all parties satisfaction. I hoped for regulation that was gleefully stanched during the Bush and Clinton administrations. I wanted to see people come together, not be compartmentalized and marginalized. Didn't happen. We're barely holding it together, but it's been both been better and worse during my long life.

                All the altrusitic things I was taught in grade school and high school civics classes have been stanched by the motives of greed and fear. Once in a long while, common sense takes hold, but only for brief moments. Then something else happens. I fear for my grandchildren.

          • Re:Definitely... (Score:5, Insightful)

            by pixelpusher220 (529617) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:30AM (#44283539)
            Obama's premature prize was a clear FU to Bush and his Administration; that's why Obama got it, with the hope that he'd not follow the same path. Unfortunately that latter part didn't work out.
        • by fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:11AM (#44283339) Journal

          Mod parent up.

          How the leader of one of the most warmongering nations on Earth got awarded a Nobel Peace Prize is beyond me.

          We will bleed the ground red with those who oppose our peace-efforts!

        • Re:Definitely... (Score:5, Insightful)

          by 1s44c (552956) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:17AM (#44283399)

          How the leader of one of the most warmongering nations on Earth got awarded a Nobel Peace Prize is beyond me.

          They gave it to Obama because he wasn't Bush. They had the idea that because Obama wasn't Bush he would behave differently and step back on the warmongering.

          Turns out they were wrong.

      • Re:Definitely... (Score:5, Insightful)

        by K. S. Kyosuke (729550) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:10AM (#44283327)

        Even better, take Obama's away and give it to Snowden.

        If I were Snowden, I'd rather hang myself than to join the kind of people who actually got it. Who'd ever want to be associated with a bunch of scumbags?

      • by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:34AM (#44283603)

        Even better, impeach Obama give Snowden the Presidency, then you'll have a president that ACTUALLY UPHOLDS THE CONSTITUTION.

        • by Xest (935314)

          You terrorist! What next, you'll be wanting someone that upholds the law, and is willing to adhere to globally agreed standards on human rights too.

  • Peace Prize (Score:5, Insightful)

    by benjfowler (239527) on Monday July 15, 2013 @08:56AM (#44283183)

    Adolf Hitler was nominated for the Peace Prize in 1939.

    Henry Kissinger got the Nobel Peace Prize for bombing the shit out of Vietnam and Cambodia.

    Obama got the Peace Prize doing sweet FA.

    The fact that somebody was either nominated for the Peace Prize, or actually won it, does not actually mean much.

  • by RetiredMidn (441788) on Monday July 15, 2013 @08:57AM (#44283191) Homepage

    I'm still ambivalent about the Snowden case, as I believe many still are. So we're going to compensate the rush to give the award to Obama by rushing to give it to Snowden?

    In the words of Valentine Michael Smith, "Waiting is."

    • I don't know if it's so much to compensate as it is to give the US a very large, very high-visibility middle finger.

      Which isn't to say that we couldn't use one...

    • by fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:16AM (#44283391) Journal

      What sort of information are you awaiting that would make you not-ambivalent?

      • by RetiredMidn (441788) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:53AM (#44283813) Homepage

        It's more complex than I have time for here, but...

        To the extent that Snowden exposed the overreach of widespread data collection and surveillance of US citizens without probable cause, he may well be a hero.

        If he truly has information that could badly damage legitimate U.S. interests (something the Guardian reporter claims, which I think may be overblown), and if he is willing to share that directly (or even indirectly) with foreign governments specifically to inflict that damage, then I have a problem with that.

        There is a wide range of legitimate points of view about U.S. foreign policy, legitimacy of various techniques to protect national security, and so on. I respect many people's differing opinions on this. One thing I do think has been helpful is that the current debates have broken across once impenetrable ideological boundaries; people usually on opposite sides of the political divide are finding themselves agreeing with each other. It's forcing people on all sides to focus on the facts and issues rather than cling to ideology. That can't be bad.

  • no, no it won't (Score:5, Insightful)

    by argStyopa (232550) on Monday July 15, 2013 @08:57AM (#44283193) Journal

    " 'save the Nobel Peace Prize from the disrepute that incurred by the hasty and ill-conceived decision to award U.S. President Barack Obama' "

    No, it won't.
    You're far, far too late on that one.

  • hasty (Score:5, Insightful)

    by nitehawk214 (222219) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:02AM (#44283239)

    hasty and ill-conceived decision to award U.S. President Barack Obama

    Because this isn't hasty orill-conceived. This does prove, however, that the Nobel Peace Prize is designed to be awarded to whomever is popular in the news currently before the public forgets them and moves on to the next disaster. Who is next for the Nobel PP? Trayvon Martin? Or is that story already run its course since the trial is over?

  • by mitcheli (894743) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:02AM (#44283243)
    Actually be responsible for bringing peace to the world? Barack Obama didn't do anything to promote peace when he first took office, and Snowden hasn't done anything "yet" to promote peace either. Nothing saying that what he did might not later, but should we not at least wait to see how the drama unfolds first before we award the medal?
  • by ReallyEvilCanine (991886) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:08AM (#44283299) Homepage
    > Giving him the prize would also 'save the Nobel Peace Prize from the disrepute
    >incurred by the hasty and ill-conceived decision to award U.S. President Barack Obama'

    What saved them from the disrepute of giving it to Kissinger & Arafat? Forgetfulness?

  • I have an idea (Score:5, Interesting)

    by slashmydots (2189826) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:12AM (#44283349)
    Someone should give Obama the "best arming of rebels" award now too just to really rub in how stupid that decision was. Foreigners need to keep their opinions and million dollar prizes out of our elections. Snowden, however, should get one. Well, except that he probably worsened foreign relationships and might actually cause a war. But just on merit, why not?
  • by sunking2 (521698) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:16AM (#44283387)
    it triggers an actual war somewhere. Stranger things have happened in history.
  • by wonkey_monkey (2592601) on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:19AM (#44283425) Homepage

    The world isn't better or safer because of what he's done - it might be one day, but for now we're just slightly better informed.

    If there was a Nobel prize for good intentions, sure, give him that.

    And let's not forget, Snowden didn't do this in the name of safety (certainly not his own). He did it in the name of liberty.

    Still, he deserves it a lot more than some.

    • If there was a Nobel prize for good intentions, sure, give him that.

      That is the current Nobel Peace Prize. Note the 2009 winner.

  • This is meaningless (Score:5, Informative)

    by David Gerard (12369) <slashdot@@@davidgerard...co...uk> on Monday July 15, 2013 @09:48AM (#44283751) Homepage

    Literally thousands of people are nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize every year. Nominating just means someone has sent in a letter suggesting them. Nomination is not in any way noteworthy.

  • by luis_a_espinal (1810296) on Monday July 15, 2013 @10:01AM (#44283897) Homepage

    Giving him the prize would also 'save the Nobel Peace Prize from the disrepute that incurred by the hasty and ill-conceived decision to award U.S. President Barack Obama' the prize, according to professor Stefan Svallfors

    Save the Nobel Peace Prize from disrepute? Too little too late dumbass. To the Stefan Svallfors of the world, where the hell were you when the Nobel Prize was given to Arafat and Rabin, when it was given to Al Gore over Irena Sendler, or when it was never given to Gandhi?

    Svallfor's motion has nothing to do with reputation or morality. It's about political posturing. I'm sure and certain that there are people other than Snowden more deserving of an actual peace price that actually matters. I mean, Snowden was more than willing to go on asylum in Venezuela or Cuba, hardly bastions of democracy and decency. People deserving of a true peace price (Gandhi for instance) would never had contemplated such a cognitive dissonant option, regardless of consequences.

    • by cffrost (885375) on Monday July 15, 2013 @04:11PM (#44288515) Homepage

      [...] Snowden was more than willing to go on asylum in Venezuela or Cuba, hardly bastions of democracy and decency.

      Edward Snowden's inability to find refuge from our gangster administration in any "friendly" democracy highlights the sacrifice he made — granting us an opportunity to reclaim our liberty in exchange for his own. We also get to witness the arrogance and hypocrisy with which our foreign relations are conducted — the Kafkaesque Bolivian flight kerfuffle demonstrated this to a degree well into the absurd.

  • by asylumx (881307) on Monday July 15, 2013 @11:38AM (#44285133)
    Just want to point out that most of the comments here are comparing this to Obama's award. Snowden has been NOMINATED but not awarded. It turns out a fairly large number of people have the ability to nominate recipients: http://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/index.html [nobelprize.org]

    This really isn't news. It's more comment trolling by slashdot -- and they've been doing a very good job of it lately.

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