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Reconciling Human Rights With Ubiquitous Online Surveillance 133

Max_W writes "Here is the text of Article #12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights: 'No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.' U.N. human rights chief Navi Pillay said yesterday 'While concerns about national security and criminal activity may justify the exceptional and narrowly-tailored use of surveillance programs, surveillance without adequate safeguards to protect the right to privacy actually risks impacting negatively on the enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms.' Is it realistic to expect the compliance with this article from the world's major players in the age of large storage disks, fast networks and computers? Or are we entering a new brave world, a new phase of human civilization, where quaint notions of privacy and traditional moral principles are becoming ridiculous? Then what to do with the Article #12? Shall it be 'intentionally left blank'? Shall it be updated to a new wording? What words could they be?" In the U.S. and the EU, government bodies are fond of coming up with domain-specific bills of rights, not so big on publicly striking out the various guarantees.
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Reconciling Human Rights With Ubiquitous Online Surveillance

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  • Two way street (Score:5, Interesting)

    by fustakrakich ( 1673220 ) on Saturday July 13, 2013 @05:27PM (#44271701) Journal

    They want to make our lives transparent. We have to do the same to theirs. The state must live by the same rules as its subjects.

  • No. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 13, 2013 @05:31PM (#44271721)

    US tortures people, and you expect them to provide basic human rights? We have a long way to do before our government isn't just providing basic rights on a convenience basis.

    Maybe we can aim for some point in the future where maybe there is a chance that basic rights will generally be given to everyone (no exceptions!), but I don't see it happening here anytime soon.

  • We must choose. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Let's All Be Chinese ( 2654985 ) on Saturday July 13, 2013 @06:12PM (#44271949)

    We're full of "universal" rights and whatnot... but fail to live up to them. Or rather, our politicians. The bureaucrats... play their little games. Or not so little, as the case may be.

    If we don't want them to run rampant, we as the world's peoples need to take a stance. Do we want ubiquitous surveillance? Then do nothing. Do we want to have something of a private live left? Well, there's work to do. And some very unpalatable questions to find suitable answers to.

    Our technology is so powerful that "because we can" is no longer a valid reason. We must choose what we want our technology to do. And to choose, we must understand the consequences of what our technology can do, and what it means to willingly forego some or all of the things it might have done. In extreme cases you can even portray this as trading saved lives, caught terrorists, convicted child pornographers, agains having some privacy left.

    And so we must come up with answers to questions like, how many lives is privacy for all worth? How many abducted little girls may be allowed to die for not having to justify every step you take? Because, again, that is how the snoopers will portray it. And so we must answer, or find more reasonable ways to frame the same question. That, or lose the fight before it started. In a sense, we already lost while we were ignorant and we must now claw back what was once rightfully ours. From the jaws of those who claim to protect us (from privacy and liberty, but I digress). How much is it worth to you?

  • Re:Two way street (Score:4, Interesting)

    by icebike ( 68054 ) on Saturday July 13, 2013 @06:33PM (#44272033)

    No Government = Tyranny as well.

    A situation of "No Government" can not exist, except perhaps in the plant world.

    Whether its hives of ants, packs of wild animals, or bands of humans, some form of organization and regulation will come into being.

    Because there is no other way on this planet. We have not evolved, and probably never will, to a state where there need never be some form of government if for no other reason than to manage infrastructure and to keep people from being at the total mercy of the biggest bully.

    My point is that One World Government is a horrible idea. Alternatives are good. Being able to vote with your feet is the last refuge.
    But as horrible as that might be, no government is worse. Even anarchists appeal to the law when their lives are threatened.

  • by Macman408 ( 1308925 ) on Saturday July 13, 2013 @07:41PM (#44272319)

    The UN chief says that appropriate safeguards are needed to protect privacy - well they WERE doing a great job......until Snowden came around.

    Think about it - what better way to protect your privacy than by not even telling you that they're invading it? If neither you nor anybody else in the public knows that your privacy has been violated, then obviously it hasn't been, because it's being kept private!

    Then Edward Snowden came along and ruined the whole thing - simply knowing that our privacy has been violated means that it IS being violated. If it weren't for him, all our data would still be safely kept private (in the hands of the NSA).

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