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Microsoft Sues US Customs For Allowing Imports of Banned Motorola Phones 87

Posted by timothy
from the we-seek-this-rent-wholeheartedly dept.
SmartAboutThings writes "Microsoft filed a lawsuit on Friday accusing the United States Customs of secretly meeting with Google representatives to allow imports of Motorola devices that are infringing on Microsoft's ActiveSync technology and therefore should be banned." The article lists 18 (older) Android devices that are named in the complaint; Xoom owners just got some street cred.
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Microsoft Sues US Customs For Allowing Imports of Banned Motorola Phones

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 13, 2013 @10:26AM (#44269709)

    how did they find out?

    • by Lisias (447563)

      Probably one of the Balmer's (or Gate's) relatives brought one, and he noticed that on the last weekend's barbecue. =P

      • Probably one of the Balmer's (or Gate's) relatives brought one, and he noticed that on the last weekend's barbecue. =P

        Sounds like an rpg: "Balmer's Gate"

        • by Lisias (447563)

          Sounds like an rpg: "Balmer's Gate"

          Or perhaps, some presidential scandal from the seventies! =D

  • by Freshly Exhumed (105597) on Saturday July 13, 2013 @10:27AM (#44269719) Homepage

    From a Bloomberg article [bloomberg.com]: 'U.S. Customs and Border Protection, after having secret meetings with Google, continued to let the Motorola Mobility mobile phones enter the country even though Google has done nothing to remove the feature at the heart of the ITC case, Microsoft said in the complaint. The case illustrates what Lexmark International Inc. (LXK) and Lutron Electronics Co. in May called an “increasingly ineffective and unpredictable enforcement” of import bans imposed by the trade agency.'

    Employing bureaucratic shortcuts is apparently alive and well. Does this point to corruption, or is it simply a matter of poor information flow?

    • by Rockoon (1252108) on Saturday July 13, 2013 @10:28AM (#44269729)

      Does this point to corruption, or is it simply a matter of poor information flow?

      Yes.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Or bad patents that should never have been granted in the first place?

        • by Lisias (447563)

          CIvil disobedience? From bureaucrats?

          Only on your dreams... (And mine too, by the way!)...

    • Re: (Score:1, Troll)

      by Lehk228 (705449)
      considering that the source of the Ban was ITC, another bureaucratic shortcut instead of proving infringement in a court of law, nothing of value was lost
      • Two wrongs don't make a right.

        • by geoskd (321194) on Saturday July 13, 2013 @11:33AM (#44270105)

          Two wrongs don't make a right.

          In this case, I'm pretty sure they do...

    • by rsilvergun (571051) on Saturday July 13, 2013 @11:22AM (#44270027)
      since the 80s. It always amazes me when people are surprised that laws aren't enforced when we've been slashing the budgets of these 'evil bureaucratic' for 30 years. Funny how the bureaucratic ain't evil when he's doing something you want done, ain't it? Buddy of mine is getting screwed over in the only job he could find. Starts life as an ardent anti-bureaucratic guy until he goes looking for the labor board to seek redress and finds out there isn't one.

      Sure kids. Have all the laws protecting you're rights you want. We control the purse strings, so we just won't fund enforcement.
      • ...we've been slashing the budgets of these 'evil bureaucratic' for 30 years...

        Yet the federal budget is the largest its EVER BEEN, and the defcit is now well over 16 billion dollars, the larget ever. Funny how that works. Also funny that Microsoft would sue the same org they've been working [slashdot.org] for.

        • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

          Yet the federal budget is the largest its EVER BEEN, and the defcit is now well over 16 billion dollars

          "well over 16 billlion dollars"??

          Last I checked, the deficit is measured in TRILLIONs per year. A $16B deficit might be YESTERDAY'S deficit....

        • by fritsd (924429)
          You're right!
          Minor nitpick though: it's 16742 [brillig.com] billion dollars at the moment, that's indeed well over 16 billion.
          It's easy to get confused, because your 16 billion is how much your deficit grows per week.
      • by dnaumov (453672)

        since the 80s. It always amazes me when people are surprised that laws aren't enforced when we've been slashing the budgets of these 'evil bureaucratic' for 30 years. Funny how the bureaucratic ain't evil when he's doing something you want done, ain't it? Buddy of mine is getting screwed over in the only job he could find. Starts life as an ardent anti-bureaucratic guy until he goes looking for the labor board to seek redress and finds out there isn't one.

        Slashing budgets of border control agencies? What planet do you live on cause it sure ain't Earth?

      • There's a big difference between "not being able to do the job" and "not doing the job". Microsoft is accusing them of the latter, and they're not the only ones to do so.

    • by Zemran (3101) on Saturday July 13, 2013 @12:53PM (#44270511) Homepage Journal

      If the phone is bought legally in another country, what right have customs got to stop someone bringing a legal product (legal where it was bought) into the country. Next think you know they will try to impose US laws in other countries... oh yeah, sorry, they are already doing that.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        what right have customs got to stop someone bringing a legal product (legal where it was bought) into the country

        Lmao -- seriously? did you even THINK about what you were writing?

        Tell you what, why don't you try this little experiment:

        1) Fly over to Amsterdam and buy ~10 kilos of Marijuana (it's legal there!).
        2) Package it all up nice and securely and put it in your onboard luggage for your return trip.
        3) Upon reaching customs, peacefully explain to them how they have "no right to stop someone bringing a legal (where it was purchased) product into the country".
        4) Write us back and let us know how things went from ther

        • by johanw (1001493)

          > Fly over to Amsterdam and buy ~10 kilos of Marijuana (it's legal there!).

          No it's not - an amount for personal use is free, and that is defined as X grams (don't know the exact number). 10 kg is certainly more than that.

  • Imhofe (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ISoldat53 (977164) on Saturday July 13, 2013 @11:07AM (#44269931)
    I guess Google's backing of James Imhofe paid off. And who is Microsoft to complain about secret meetings with government officials?
  • I like this tough old POS better every day. Been swimming with it. Blown metal chips off it with compressed air. It won't die.

  • by tuppe666 (904118) on Saturday July 13, 2013 @11:10AM (#44269961)

    I have never done any of this, but you have to wonder if this is a home goal twinned with what should be an antitrust case. Google have dropped activesync.http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2413283,00.asp (Anyone else forgot how pro Microsoft PCmag was)

    The most ironic part of this Windows Phone users used to get gmail messages instantaneously...and now they don't...like Windows Phone was not already second class technology.

    Technology(sic) like this should be used to give additional benefits to Microsoft Users not used to attack competing companies(and its own customers) in markets where...lets be honest its product continues to fail after 3 years (I remember when they had 10% of the smart-phone market)

    Trying to Bullying companies as large...rich...popular...successful...like...Google is just stupid(Apple have behind closed doors agreement). Insane when their product occupies 75% of the market and yours occupies 3%.

    The bottom line is even if these product were banned...Windows Phone would have remained a failure, not its a little more likely to continue to be.

    • by Lisias (447563)

      The most funny (or not!) part of all this mess is that my Palm LifeDrive already did all that almost 10 years ago.

      The only and sorely difference is that it was done using WiFi and not by 3G or GPRS (as my Android does right now, as I don't want to pay the outrageous fess of my countries's 3G services).

    • . Google have dropped activesync.http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2413283,00.asp (Anyone else forgot how pro Microsoft PCmag was)

      The most ironic part of this Windows Phone users used to get gmail messages instantaneously...and now they don't...like Windows Phone was not already second class technology.

      Outdated news... Google has dropped nothing.

      "Google Extends Windows Phone Exchange ActiveSync Support Until July"

      http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2414917,00.asp [pcmag.com]

      Microsoft announced today that Google has agreed to delay the removal of support for Microsoft's Exchange ActiveSync protocol (Google Sync) until July.
      In the meantime, Microsoft said it is working to build support for the protocols Google will be using going forward, meaning Windows Phone users will still be able to connect to Google services.

      Please stop twisting facts or posting misleading stories to further your agenda. Your entire post is bunk.

  • Oh, and Oracle.

  • by Overzeetop (214511) on Saturday July 13, 2013 @11:37AM (#44270147) Journal

    Just because someone doesn't voluntarily invite you to a meeting does not mean that it's secret.

    I think, "United States Customs has met with Google representatives to allow imports of Motorola devices" is more accurate.

    • That's what I was thinking. "If they're secret meetings, how does MS know that they happened?"

      It was fun thinking of Ballmer hunched over a keyboard in the dark, face pale in the light of an old CRT that spilled onto the painted-cinderblock wall behind him and gleaming on the tinfoil wrapped round his head as he punched furiously on the keyboard as he tried to convince an X-Files newsgroup "I'M TELLING YOU! It's happening!!!!1!"

  • by Anonymous Psychopath (18031) on Saturday July 13, 2013 @12:02PM (#44270263) Homepage

    TFA fails to mention that the ITC ruling provides a 60-day review period, during which Moto posts a bond of $0.33 per device imported. That period expires Monday. So far they've not done anything wrong. They could simply stop importing those models prior to Monday, surrender the bond, and be in full compliance with the ITC order.

    • But then Microsoft wouldn't have anything to whine about.
      • That period expired last year. Post anything anti-MS, get upvoted on Slashdot regardless of truth. This site is a joke.

    • You're off by a year. The 60-day period expired in July 2012. Which was 60 days after the ban went into effect, back in May 2012.

      Also, that stuff you mentioned wasn't in the article. It was in an article that was linked from the article. This one [cnet.com], to be precise, which is clearly timestamped "May 18, 2012 2:34 PM PDT".

      So yeah, they may very well be doing something wrong, since that 60-day period expired quite awhile ago.

  • For antitrust, spying on their users, putting back doors in their software and cloud products, forcing non-Windows uers to pay the Windows tax (Even though the EULA says we don't have to have it, they put the onus on manufacturers who do not honor the refund policy, thereby conveniently denying us our rights), giving kickbacks to manufacturers, for implementing insecureboot, for providing a substandard operating system, for inhibiting competition at every turn...this is just for starters,
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Hey Microsof, maybe the Motorla phones are enjoying H-1B status too! Shut-up and feel the pain!

  • So Google thought maybe MS would simply forget about it and not pay any attention to whether or not the injunction was being followed? Riiiight. Shocker, now they're suing.
  • after a while open source operating systems will be the less annoying choice.

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