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UCSD Lecturer Releases Geotagging Application For "Dangerous Guns and Owners" 976

NF6X writes "UCSD Lecturer Brett Stallbaum has released an Android app called Gun Geo Marker to allow people to 'Geolocate Dangerous Guns and Owners.' The app description states: 'The Gun Geo Marker operates very simply, letting parents and community members mark, or geolocate, sites associated with potentially unsafe guns and gun owners. These locations are typically the homes or businesses of suspected unsafe gun owners, but might also be public lands or other locations where guns are not handled safely, or situations where proper rights to own or use any particular type of firearm may not exist.' I question how the motivation behind developing this app differs from, say, developing an app to allow others to publicly geotag homes of people believed to belong to a particular religion or political party."
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UCSD Lecturer Releases Geotagging Application For "Dangerous Guns and Owners"

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  • Wrong strawman (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @09:31AM (#44224541)

    "I question how the motivation behind developing this app differs from, say, developing an app to allow others to publicly geotag homes of people believed to belong to a particular religion or political party."

    Should be comparing the geopositioning of dangerous guns and owners to sex offenders.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @09:34AM (#44224563)

    It's more than worth the effort to read through the reviews on Google Play for this thing. Not only is it telling that the community rating is so low it induces tears of sympathy, the reviews are funny as all hell! Nicely done.

  • Re:Move to Europe. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by tmosley ( 996283 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @10:08AM (#44224965)
    “Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744-1812), founder of the House of Rothschild.

    If you have a central bank, you don't have democracy. You have elected officials who govern the small folk, and a cabal of central bankers who make the real decisions.

    Yes, that goes for America as well.
  • by JesseMcDonald ( 536341 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @11:07AM (#44225749) Homepage

    You were shouting in my face so I pushed you, you pushed me so I hit you, you hit me so I shot you. All self defence?

    If you're escalating the situation then you're not practicing self-defense. That said, there is a difference between "he hit me so I shot him" and "he was about to kill or irreparably injure me so I shot him". The situation may be exactly the same, but the former reasoning is escalation, whereas the latter is (preemptive) defense.

    To counter an imminent threat of irreversible harm, preemptive defense may be both necessary and justified. However, that path carries significant risks should others happen to disagree with your threat assessment.

  • by Rhacman ( 1528815 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @11:45AM (#44226229)
    Perhaps, but what about the slightly less hypothetical "he realized I was carrying a gun and reached for it but I grabbed it first and shot him"? I suppose we'll be finding out shortly.
  • by NeutronCowboy ( 896098 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @11:50AM (#44226283)

    And yet, it is sitting at +5 Insightful. I don't know if that means that some people are playing a meta-joke game or if Republicans really do find lies insightful if they match their agenda, so I'll leave that decision to you.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @12:04PM (#44226453)

    I would prefer to put my children in a school where all parents educate their children on firearms and are active in firearm sports. That way, kids a less likely to go rooting through bedroom drawers.

    Ignorance of danger doesn't make the danger go away.

    Exactly. That is why we need to get people like you to understand that you just can't teach children about firearms that way.
    Go and have a look at any information regarding raising children. Take a look at how to inform your child of the passing of a grandparent.
    You will find that child psychology has advance way beyond the point where they are "adults but smaller."
    An undeveloped brain can simply not grasp abstract concepts like life and death in the sense that you and I think of them. For a pre-teen or early teenager death isn't necessarily perceived as something permanent or tangible.
    You can teach them how to handle the gun and to never eat candy before dinner but you can't guarantee that your child won't experiment when you aren't around.
    This is exactly why it as good idea to have a school where the parents agree on not having guns at home. The parents who really wants to have guns at home could still have it and put their children in a gun-friendly school and hope that all other parents there are responsible adults.
    Personally I don't see how a parent could have a gun at home and be considered responsible unless they keep it locked in a safe. Children are naturally curious and thinking that you can educate that curiosity away (Or that it even is a good idea to do so.) is delusional. I don't mind if you want to do that but I would prefer to put my children in another school than yours.

  • by X0563511 ( 793323 ) on Tuesday July 09, 2013 @12:42PM (#44226931) Homepage Journal

    Clicking a few at random, they all seem relatively justified.

    Suspect refuses to drop knife. Suspect gets up and approaches officers - suspect gets shot.
    Suspect hiding in a drainage pipe. Suspect is belligerent, and aims gun at officers - suspect gets shot.
    Suspect escapes from handcuffs and aims gun at officers - suspect gets shot.
    Suspect drives car aggressively towards officers - suspect gets shot.

    Notice a theme, here? Most of these involve the suspect threatening imminent harm or death to the officers, so they respond with force.

    This proves nothing beyond the fact that the USA is a large and diverse country.

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