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Disposable VPN: Tor Gateways With EC2 Free Tiers 78

Posted by timothy
from the getting-the-message-across dept.
The established regime in Turkey (not to mention many other countries: take your pick) may not like any-to-many communications, but luckily established regimes don't always get the final word. An anonymous reader writes "Lahana is my little side project to help people access the Internet and Tor via Amazon EC2 free tier-based VPNs. It's a couple of scripts that set up a new VPN in a couple of minutes that automatically tunnels everything through Tor. It's easy to share credentials with groups of people and for most people is free to set up and use. I built it with Turkey in mind, but it no doubt has other uses."
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Disposable VPN: Tor Gateways With EC2 Free Tiers

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  • by eksith (2776419) on Sunday June 02, 2013 @11:09PM (#43893041) Homepage
    If there was more of ad-hoc mesh of peers connecting Jordan to neighbors? The "Internet" may be blocked, but that's still within. An "extranet" may be harder to block/filter etc... This still has to go through Jordan's tubes, which they, or any other country really, can cut at any point as well.
    • by eksith (2776419)
      Ah, for anyone thinking I've lost my marbles talking about Jordan: Well, I briefly did, but found them again! I'm thinking more in the lines of this story [7iber.com], which is still applicable. I guess my brain decided to merge the two.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Turks - don't let your movement fizzle and be subject to intimidation and co-opting by lunatic fringes. That is where America's occupy movement failed. Do not stop until the establishment makes concessions for you and fears you. There is a lot at stake here, if you lose, you will be reduced to a state not unlike that of Saudi Arabia.
     
      -- Ethanol-fueled

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by game kid (805301)

      At the very least, Erdogan's Pave-A-Park Plan is incredibly tacky. It demonstrates everything wrong with an oblivious and uncompassionate government, in orange-juice-concentrate form. I mean, replace a nice park [wikipedia.org] with a historical symbol of war [wikipedia.org] (as if we should remind ourselves to be perpetually on such footing)...and then put a...shopping mall...inside...?

      wat.

      • If you've never been to Istanbul, damn it needs every park it can get.
        Not terribly 'green'. I could just be spoilt by Australia however.

    • by Archon-X (264195) on Monday June 03, 2013 @12:30AM (#43893347)

      I flew 3,500km this weekend to support the Turks w/ their cause. It's absolutely not just 'Young Turks' - it's young, old, male, female, working class, middle class, upper class - aethiest, christian, islam - all in it together.

      The US-based occupy movements were formed on arguably shaky foundations. This isn't - the park was simply a trigger point for what has been a 10 year gradual decay of rights, liberties and privledges.

      It's certainly far from Attaturk's legacy.

      • by TubeSteak (669689)

        Don't expect much comprehension from Americans.
        Turkey is an American ally, so American media is doing what it can to ignore the uprising.

        Turkey probably wishes their protests were getting as much coverage as
        Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and Bahrain (is that all of 'em?) did.

        In case anyone is wondering why the Turkish military hasn't removed the Prime Minister already [economist.com]

      • by DNS-and-BIND (461968) on Monday June 03, 2013 @02:30AM (#43893755) Homepage
        Occupy Wall Street was the voice of the 99% rising up against the 1%. The elite used police thugs to bring an end to the uppity commoners. It's sad you've fallen for the false narrative provided by Fox News.
        • by Pubstar (2525396)
          Yes and no. While I do know that they were fighting for what they believe in, the lack of a central figure leading the movement and lack of a cohesive set of goals, it came off the wrong way. It was a bunch of people yelling their own grievances, and they were just drowning each other out. But, as they said, they didn't want a central figure, because it was about all of them being equal... or something like that.
        • by Archon-X (264195)

          I',m not trying to enter into a pissing contest - all I am attemtping to illustrate is the incfedible support for this movement - it is most definitely larger, and much more intense than occupy ever was.

          You can see this in even one clip i shot from last night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZBsdYCOLuY [youtube.com]

        • by gl4ss (559668)

          occupy movement was way under 1%... not that much about the 99%. and no goal. for fucks sake they didn't even ask anyone to resign.

      • by AHuxley (892839)
        Do you really think the people who did Balyoz, Ergenekon, the Susurluk scandal, the derin devlet will just sit back?
        You will all be labeled like the "Mountain Turks" where and get to enjoy the wonderful new EU ready prison system.
        Gone are the huge dormitories, hello solitary confinement.
        You will be worked on like the US-based occupy movements where - everyone will be catalogued, leaders found, turned or misdirected, the movement stopped.
        Tor will not save you from any state friendly with the NSA (the USA
    • by raymorris (2726007) on Monday June 03, 2013 @01:17AM (#43893537)
      "That is where America's occupy movement failed."

      That, and the fact that they had no goal, nothing specific they were trying to accomplish other than to complain that some people (ie college grads) earn more than others (mostly dropouts and liberal arts majors). Also, their complete laziness - refusal to DO anything other than sit in a park smoking weed.

      So yeah, Turks, don't fall into those two traps. Find an actual solution to advocate for, then do something about it. It seems that getting high and whining doesn't improve your life effectively.
      • by Achra (846023)
        THIS. I wish I hadn't burned my mod points earlier today, this needs to be modded up.
      • And hear I always though it was savage beatings by police.
      • by wytcld (179112)

        Most people in America now have an opinion on the topic of "The 1% vs. the 99%." This was not the case before Occupy. Making it part of the political conversation was the chief goal of the Occupy events. They succeeded. And at very small cost compared, for example, to the massive subsidies given to Tea Party groups and right-wing think tanks by the Koch brothers in support of injection of their own memes into the national conversation.

        So a few thousand people, in a few months of their time, accomplished wor

    • by Builder (103701)

      What, like in Egypt ?

  • by Anonymous Coward

    or at least that's what aws website says

  • by lordsilence (682367) * on Monday June 03, 2013 @12:01AM (#43893217) Homepage

    It's a good idea, but it'll also creates a hassle with spammers, bots, scrapers and other malicious users that will use Amazon EC2 to do bad stuff.
    The IP reputation of Amazon EC2 was already bad (with many services blocking EC2 pre-emptively) now it's going to get even worse.
     
    In the past malicious amazon ec2 users would at least have to put some effort into learning EC2. Now they can just use the TOR layer instead to use amazon IPs.

    • by Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) on Monday June 03, 2013 @03:45AM (#43893935)

      The IP reputation of Amazon EC2 was already bad (with many services blocking EC2 pre-emptively) now it's going to get even worse.

      This VM is a VPN link from one or more users to a TOR bridge. Where the packets hit the un-encrypted internet has nothing to do with where the VM is hosted, it will only be TOR exit nodes. This VM will have minimal impact on the "reputation" of EC2 because TOR's entire purpose is to hide the origin.

    • That's completely impossible unless the bridge were also configured as an exit node. Since the whole point of the exercise is to get INTO the Tor network in a way that cannot be easily blocked, that'd be a stupid setup.

    • by bloodhawk (813939) on Monday June 03, 2013 @04:32AM (#43894071)

      It's a good idea, but it'll also creates a hassle with spammers, bots, scrapers and other malicious users that will use Amazon EC2 to do bad stuff. The IP reputation of Amazon EC2 was already bad (with many services blocking EC2 pre-emptively) now it's going to get even worse. In the past malicious amazon ec2 users would at least have to put some effort into learning EC2. Now they can just use the TOR layer instead to use amazon IPs.

      We have already blocked EC2 addresses from accessing any of public sites where I work due to the sheer volume of bots and site scrapers coming from there. I would not be surprised if many other places around the world are actively doing the same.

  • RE: Connectivity (Score:5, Informative)

    by Archon-X (264195) on Monday June 03, 2013 @12:33AM (#43893355)

    Actually, connectivity here is pretty damned great. The movement is a lot, lot bigger than the US-Occupy efforts - and is supported by many companies and businesses.

    Yesterday for the rallies / riots, TurkCell had installed several mobile cell-repeaters. Even during the most intense of confrontations with the cops, I had perfect cell, data and voice reception.

    • by Weezul (52464)

      Worse, this sounds *far* less secure than using Tor's official bridge system, which does exactly the same thing.

      Amazon might not share your data with Turkey directly. If however Turkey asks the CIA, etc., the CIA, etc. might very well take your data form Amazon using an NSL and send it to Turkey.

      If you want a fast insecure VPN that's good enough for most things, then simply VPN through Amazon's EC2 or whatever.

      If you want a more secure but slower VPN, then simply use Tor directly. If Tor seems blocked, fol

  • by manu0601 (2221348) on Monday June 03, 2013 @12:33AM (#43893359)
    What prevents Turk government to block EC2 IP ranges?
    • by Anonymous Coward

      The fact that telecoms there are against government.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    That Western-American-Christian freedom is still better Eastern-Old World (Persian-Arabic)-Muslim freedom.

    Don't do anything on those Amazon VPNs that will get you noticed in America like downloading Disney flicks from the 1940's my Turkish brothers. Otherwise feel free to use it to rebel against your own societies serving the ends of our Overlords just the same. (Sarcasm)

  • by fuzzel (18438) on Monday June 03, 2013 @12:55AM (#43893457) Homepage

    Strange, this "article" does not even mention the official Tor Project Cloud effort: https://cloud.torproject.org/ [torproject.org]

  • How long would it be before all of AWS was just blocked at the national firewall level? Its not like these regimes give a crud what else they accidentally block. Most of them would as soon just block the whole thing if they could...

  • The essence of Tor is that your message passes through multiple nodes (say 3), none of which knows your message's origin and destination (and indeed content). But this breaks down if all the nodes are controlled by the same sysadmin.

    Surely if we end up with a high proportion of nodes on Amazon, then some communications will be routed entirely between Amazon nodes. Then this breaks the anonymity model, allowing the secret policeman to log (or subpoena) the user's traffic.

  • by symbolset (646467) * on Monday June 03, 2013 @05:52AM (#43894301) Journal
    Then using somebody else's ain't gonna work.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    What has always bothered me was how does one know if the VPN or Tor gateway is in the hands of freedom lovers or snoopers?
    Only if one sets up a gateway themselves can one know for sure, but that pointing a neon sign to oneself saying "Here's another freedom lover!"
    So we need some way of checking on the veracity of a VPN or Tor to ensure that it is not some compromised agent who will snoop and report!
    Where do we get REAL freedom?

  • Anyone remember this quote?

    "The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it."

    Awesome.

  • I need one of these so bad ,to stop the filthy police force interfering in my freedom of electronic speech.

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