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West Virginia Won't Release Broadband Report Because It Is 'Embarrassing' 183

An anonymous reader writes "The Charleston Gazette is reporting that the state of West Virginia hired a consulting firm for over $100,000 to investigate the state's use of Federal stimulus money (which included the purchase of $22,000 routers for tiny buildings). Unfortunately, the state government is now refusing a FOIA request to release the firm's report. The reason? The findings 'might be embarrassing to some people,' according to Commerce Secretary Keith Burdette."
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West Virginia Won't Release Broadband Report Because It Is 'Embarrassing'

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @10:28PM (#43220173)

    This is a good example of what we'll lose if and when big city daily papers go under, and are replaced by national/international news outfits with makeshift and/or crowdsourced local staffs.

  • Hmm (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @10:38PM (#43220243)

    The company that wrote the report for WV, ICF, is the same company that did the evaluations of the broadband stimulus grant and loan applications, and is heading up the auditing of the deployments. If WV is ignoring the foia requests, I would imagine the request could be sent to the Feds since it's their money.

  • by WaywardGeek ( 1480513 ) on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @10:38PM (#43220253) Journal

    of a lot of jokes. Yeah, they screwed up... Again. However, most people don't know that West Virgina was part of Virginia up until the Civil War. They believed so strongly in free labor (as opposed to slave labor) that they succeeded from their state. I can forgive them for a lot of crap after that. It's sad seeing them struggle over basic internet access, but I think it's always been a challenge in WV.

  • by wierd_w ( 1375923 ) on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @10:49PM (#43220307)

    I could see a nasty bed of serpents here.

    On one side:

    Releasing the documents without also releasing a lot of priviledged information would paint at least one person with a very broad brush, and with a very unflattering color. This could very likely jeapordize their careers and good names, and thus has defamation suit written all over it. So, denying access to the information to prevent defamation suits seems crooked, but at least potentially plausible, especially if the situation really is the result of onerous BS further up the totem pole, and the person who will get the bad rap for it really had no other recourse. (Again, that is priviledged information about internal policies, and may be proprietary information from a vendor, and thus not safe to release with FOIA documents unredacted. The redacted form is what paints the negative image.)

    On the other hand:

    Allowing a refusal to satisfy a FOIA request on grounds of "embarasment" is not just a slippery slope; it's a freaking crazyslide, made of tefon, leading into a bottomless pit. Embarking down it is "not a good idea(tm)".

    This is one of those cases where you can't make an omlette without breaking some eggs.

    Personally, I think the "best" solution to this intractable condition is to make govt agencies immune to defamation suits pertaining to information released via FOIA. That's also a slippery slope, but considerably less "teflon crazyslide" slippery than permitting arbitrary denials.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @11:01PM (#43220381)

    I live in West Virginia (not a native, and actual natives are quick to remind me of this fact), and parent's statement is sadly true. There are people here who openly admit that they voted against Obama in the last two elections "because he's black." No shame, and no other reason.

  • Re:Typo in summary (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @11:05PM (#43220401)

    Here's more insight: Representatives of the people have only one job, which is written into their job title - represent the people. So if the representatives are too embarrassed to share what they've done with the funds granted by the people, especially in regards to a project that should benefit the community, it means the money have been either wasted with no regard for public interest, or stolen. Both of these scenarios are covered by criminal law. Hope that covers it. Monetary system is stupid anyway, but that's beside the point.

  • by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) * on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @11:14PM (#43220449) Homepage Journal

    In some States, it's illegal but there are no penalties for refusing. The "sunshine laws" have "no teeth" a the parlance goes. In other States there are fines or convictions associated, and, surprise, the government complies more often.

  • by gman003 ( 1693318 ) on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @11:16PM (#43220461)

    Yes, that's the story that's in the textbooks, at least.

    The reality of the Civil War was a *lot* more complicated. Slavery was only the third or fourth most important issue until Lincoln turned it into the moral justification for the war. Which was a brilliant PR move on his part, since even a century later we're believing in it.

    The #1 reason was the same sort of divisive party politics that continues to this day, with the same party names even. You know what the Republican fringe was saying about Obama during the last elections? That was pretty much what the Democrats were saying about Lincoln, except replace "socialism" with "abolitionism".

    Then there was the whole movement from rural, agriculture-based societies to urban, industrial society. Always a cause for major upheaval. And guess what? East Virginia was mostly agricultural, and West Virginia was mostly coal mines (and thus economically aligned with the Northern cities they fueled).

    Of course there was also the statehood issue. The states, at that time, still had quite a bit more independence than they do now. There had been a delicate balance for years over the slavery issue, trying to make sure that neither side had enough votes to force their own way. Lincoln's election proved that balance was gone - he wasn't even on the ballot in many Southern states.

    Finally was the whole issue of the war. There was a lull between the initial round of secession and the war proper beginning, during which Virginia was still Union. Only when Lincoln began calling up the armies did the rest secede (and West Virginia re-secede, or de-secede or whatever the term is). Even then, some states tried to declare neutrality.

    As for West Virginia, there was one more reason peculiar to them - geography. The two are separated by the Appalachian Mountains, which are a rather significant barrier. I think it's even easier for them to ship coal to New Orleans (via the Mississippi) than to Richmond. When you have such separation, it's somewhat natural for political divisions to occur.

  • Re:Typo in summary (Score:5, Interesting)

    by AlphaWolf_HK ( 692722 ) on Tuesday March 19, 2013 @11:39PM (#43220565)

    There was a previous Slashdot article blaming this incident on Cisco, and even though I don't work for Cisco, I want to cut the bs and set the record straight. Let me do so by quoting the words of the main politician behind this project

    West Virginia Homeland Security chief Jimmy Gianato, who's leading the state broadband project, defended the $24 million router purchase last week, saying the devices "could meet many different needs and be used for multiple applications."

    "Our main concerns were to not have something that would become obsolete in a couple of years," Gianato said. "Looking at how technology evolves, we wanted something that was scalable, expandable and viable, five to 10 years out. We wanted to make sure every place had the same opportunity across the state."

    So we have this asshole behind this mess, but the mass media blames Cisco and Verizon. There's more:

    Verizon spokesman Keith Irland said the company simply responded to router specifications detailed in the state's bid posting.

    "They specified the equipment they wanted," Irland said. "That's what they requested, that's what we bid on. We had the lowest price, and we won the bid for the equipment and related maintenance."

    The Gazette-Mail contacted two Cisco sales agents last week, asking whether the 3945 series routers were appropriate for schools and libraries.

    "The 3945 is our router solution for campus and large enterprises, so this is overkill for your network," a Cisco representative responded.

    The sales agents recommended a smaller router -- with a list price of $487.

    State Department of Education officials questioned the size of the routers before Gianato and the Office of Technology executed the $24 million purchase order.

    http://www.wvgazette.com/News/201205050057 [wvgazette.com]

    Other than manufacturing the equipment, Cisco had nothing to do with this project. They weren't even involved in the sales. So clearly corrupt corporations are to blame, not the poor innocent politicians. Oh and did I mention that he was commended for this later?

  • FOIA (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Taco Cowboy ( 5327 ) on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @02:41AM (#43221275) Journal

    Please correct me if I am wrong ...

    If anyone file an FOIA request for some document, the authority has to comply ... except when the information released can lead to national security, or do harm to someone's life (like name of spy, or something)

    That is why the authority retains the right to redact the documents they release

    If W.V. decides to NOT release anything on the ground of it's "embarrassing" (or even as the GP has stated, "incriminating"), then they (the W.V. government) is in direct violation of the FOIA act.

  • Re:Typo in summary (Score:5, Interesting)

    by YeeHaW_Jelte ( 451855 ) on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @06:07AM (#43221927) Homepage

    "West Virginia Homeland Security chief Jimmy Gianato, who's leading the state broadband project"

    Forgive me my ignorance, but why is the chief of Homeland Security leading a broadband project? Isn't that kind of ... weird?

    Makes one wonder what the exact relation between homeland security and broadband is ... and what ulterior motives this man Gianato is hiding.

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