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EU Data Protection Proposal Taken Word For Word From US Lobbyists 108

Qedward writes "Glyn Moody looks at the proposed EU directive on Data Protection — and how some of the proposed amendments seem to be cut and pasted directly from the American Chamber of Commerce — that well-known European organisation... You might ask, Glyn writes, who are these MEPs representing — some 500 million EU citizens that pay their salary or a bunch of extremely rich U.S. companies intent on taking away our privacy?" Lobbyplag lets you look at which lobbyist wrote each part of the bill. Fears of the U.S. exerting undue influence seem to be justified.
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EU Data Protection Proposal Taken Word For Word From US Lobbyists

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 12, 2013 @04:33AM (#42869207)

    These fat cat euro bureocrats are MUCH WORSE than the americana equivalents because under european system there arent no real primaries but politica parties nominate from their long standing "faithful" which is mostly people in their 50's or worse , thus assuring The establishment rules always...European citizens are DENIED THE RIGHT TO DO REFERENDUMS to vote for or against anyrhing.

    Clearly this is being rejected by the europeans citizens and will certainly cause the implosion of the european union.

  • Yeah... And? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 12, 2013 @04:41AM (#42869253)

    Are you really shocked by this? The media companies already own the EU.
    Bought and paid for. Just like the rest of the world other than a few 'evil' countries who will eventually bend over just the same. They have no other choice left that doesn't lead to the same end.

    At the very least the mega raid should have tipped you all off by now. You WILL dance to the tune of the USA. And the USA dances to the tune of Hollywood.

    The only thing you should really be shocked by is it took them this long to roll it out. You'd better get used to the idea. The one world is here. And it's not under the thumb of some evil dictator or secret organization. It's the multinational corporations and the media industry is right there at the top of the list.

    And they've already won. We've been handing them money, power, and control for decades now. We are the good little consumers who WILL do as we are told or else. It's all over but the shouting and acceptance if we wan't our nice modern lives to continue.

    He was close... But only thought it was one country.

    "The real owners are the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians, they're an irrelevancy. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They've long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the statehouses, the city halls. They've got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies, so that they control just about all of the news and information you hear. They've got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else."

    "But I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. That's against their interests. They don't want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how badly they're getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago.

    "You know what they want? Obedient workers people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork but just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And, now, they're coming for your Social Security. They want your fucking retirement money. They want it back, so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They'll get it. They'll get it all, sooner or later, because they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club."
    -george carlin

  • Re:Ho Hum (Score:5, Insightful)

    by azalin ( 67640 ) on Tuesday February 12, 2013 @05:19AM (#42869373)
    I would compare ethical behavior in international politics to a giant whack a mole game. No one is really ethically superior and bad apples turn up everywhere. That why the hammer of public outrage should come down on them. The problem is some countries consider themselves exempt.
  • by Sique ( 173459 ) on Tuesday February 12, 2013 @05:37AM (#42869445) Homepage
    You don't have any clue what a primary actually does. Right?
    If everyone can found his own party and even get elected to the European Parliament (look at the swedish Pirate Party!), there is no point to go through the primaries of two big parties. Just cut out the middleman and get your own election platform! You try to turn a sad necessity of the congealed U.S. two party system into something of an advantage.
  • Re:Odd (Score:4, Insightful)

    by TFAFalcon ( 1839122 ) on Tuesday February 12, 2013 @06:25AM (#42869641)

    That's why the MEPs don't accept the 'donations'. Instead they sell something to the lobbyist for 1000% of it's value.

  • Re:Interesting (Score:3, Insightful)

    by jonwil ( 467024 ) on Tuesday February 12, 2013 @07:05AM (#42869795)

    Someone should produce a Zero Dollar note for the USA and a Zero Euro note for the EU :)

  • Re:Odd (Score:4, Insightful)

    by ThePhilips ( 752041 ) on Tuesday February 12, 2013 @07:14AM (#42869831) Homepage Journal

    Wow, that's one heck of a conspiracy theory.

    It's not a theory. Several lobbyist in the past was describing precisely such practices.

    "Social engineering" sounds to me bit off, too glorified. I used to call it "conditioning" (the Neuro Associative Conditioning [wikispaces.com] seems to be the common term). It is pretty well known set of practices from the NLP [wikipedia.org].

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