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Copyright Claim Thwarts North Korean Propaganda 147

Posted by samzenpus
from the use-your-own-lies dept.
ianare writes "A propaganda video from the North Korean authorities has been removed from YouTube following a copyright claim by games maker Activision. It shows a space craft flying around the world and eventually over a city resembling New York. The buildings are then seen crumbling amid fires and missile attacks. However, the dramatic images (video) were soon recognized as having been lifted from Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3. By Tuesday, the video had been blocked, with a message notifying users of Activision's complaint shown in its place."
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Copyright Claim Thwarts North Korean Propaganda

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  • by TsuruchiBrian (2731979) on Wednesday February 06, 2013 @07:48PM (#42815827)
    I had hoped that North Korea was spending a large percentage of it's budget on original computer graphics propaganda rather than it's actual weapons, but unfortunately I was wrong.
    • All together now. "We are the world....We are the people...."

      North Korea is the best Korea! Ronald Reagan, we're coming after you! You can't hide from us forever. You'll pay for what you did to our comrades in the USSR!

      Umm, ya...Those poor poor SOBs. They haven't a clue, do they?

    • Well, given the gaming reputation of the South Koreans, NK isn't really going to fool anyone down South, is it? If that was the target of their propaganda, that is -- SK would enjoy a huge laugh at NK's expense.

  • by canadiannomad (1745008) on Wednesday February 06, 2013 @07:49PM (#42815831) Homepage

    I don't like how easy it is for people to take down other peoples work, and lately we have seen a lot of that.
    Though it is nice to see when the evil tool is used for good.

    • this is just plain funny
    • Unless copyright claims is how they are planning to cope with real nuclear shots from NK.
    • So what exactly was the good which happened by taking down the video?

    • " Oh, wait... it turns out that the original video was actually taken down by the user who uploaded it (i.e., whatever North Korea's version of Ronaiah Tuiasosopo is), so it wasn't so much a victory for America! as it was a failure of America!'s media fact-checking efforts."

      http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130206/10392021893/north-korea-threatens-to-nuke-us-with-copied-video-game-footage.shtml

      Cough.
    • You don't think that this is something American citizens deserve to see. Yes there's copyright infringement but I'd strongly argue its in the public interest to know about the kinds of threats being made.

    • by jonadab (583620)
      Actually, I would like to watch that video. It sounds like it would've been more amusing than anything I've seen all week. I'm disappointed that I didn't hear about it until it was taken down, and I think it's a shame that the video game producer couldn't be a better sport about the thing, given that this video was very obviously not competing with them in any meaningful way.
  • Yeah! Silly North Koreans! Make your own darned cgi video of NY blowing up!

  • Can North Korea demand that YouTube take down any video clips of Kim Jung Il singing "I'm so Ronery" from Team America, as that is clearly an unauthorised reproduction of the Dear leader singing?

    • by arbiter1 (1204146)
      I believe the cases are completely different as parody is allowed, straight out stealing video from a game using in an attack type statement is not.
    • by drkim (1559875)

      Can North Korea demand that YouTube take down any video clips of Kim Jung Il singing "I'm so Ronery" from Team America, as that is clearly an unauthorised reproduction of the Dear leader singing?

      No. The real Kim Jung Il never actually sang "I'm so Ronrey." He used to sing:
      "Your Little Body's Slowly Breaking Down" from "Evita"
      "I Kissed a Girl"
      "Walk Like an Egyptian"
      "Easy To Be Hard"
        and
      "America" from "West Side Story"

  • by girlintraining (1395911) on Wednesday February 06, 2013 @07:55PM (#42815887)

    I have a friend who's a marine and we had a good laugh about the mock fighter jet the Iranians put out last week. I bet I'll have them on the floor when I show them this...

    The media portrays Iran as this menacing threat. People in our military however tend to look at them as that kid who kicks sand in everyone's faces. Harmless, but annoying.

    • Re:Marines (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Dahamma (304068) on Wednesday February 06, 2013 @08:28PM (#42816197)

      Iraq was a lot more "harmless" than Iran, but I'm sure the 5000 dead and 30,000 wounded US soldiers would dispute that description.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Iraq was a lot more "harmless" than Iran, but I'm sure the 5000 dead and 30,000 wounded US soldiers would dispute that description.

        I'm sure the dead are the ones who wouldn't dispute anything.

      • Re:Marines (Score:4, Insightful)

        by Smauler (915644) on Thursday February 07, 2013 @03:09AM (#42818051)

        This.

        girlintraining, ask your marine friend about how many people died, and how they died in Iraq. Laugh over coffee.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Well, harmless as long as you didn't invade and occupy it for ten years.

        • by Dahamma (304068)

          Well, harmless as long as you didn't invade and occupy it for ten years.

          Yes, brilliant point, in which case Russia and China must have even more harmless militaries since they have not been invaded and occupied for almost 70 years!

    • True. But if they do launch a high altitude nuke and detonate it way up there, the resulting EMP (sand) could blind us for a very very long time. Not so funny now is it round eye?

      • True. But if they do launch a high altitude nuke and detonate it way up there, the resulting EMP (sand) could blind us for a very very long time. Not so funny now is it round eye?

        First, they need to have a nuke to launch, and their nuclear scientists have an odd habit of exploding, dying in car accidents, or taking vacations to the United States that they never return from. And then there was that unfortunate problem with all their centrifuges self-destructing. Couple that with their apparent inability to construct anything high-tech like, say, a fighter jet, without it having basic design flaws like, say, the afterburner melting the aircraft and setting fire to the pilot, and I'll

  • Headline Trollops (Score:5, Insightful)

    by rmdingler (1955220) on Wednesday February 06, 2013 @07:58PM (#42815923)
    North Korea has morphed into a Kardashian class nation, whereby it matters not "what" they're in the news for, so long as they're in the news....
    • by tepples (727027) <tepples@[ ]il.com ['gma' in gap]> on Wednesday February 06, 2013 @08:14PM (#42816069) Homepage Journal

      North Korea has morphed into a Kardashian class nation

      It already was [wikipedia.org]: "Cardassian society is often depicted as being Orwellian, with strict government control over information and violent force. Denizens are shown as having unquestioning obedience to authority due to the general lack of human rights, which provides a contrast to the personal protections of the Federation."

      • Mixing up Trek with Kardashians? Although alien mind control would explain how they're famous.
      • Hopefully you dont know that the celebrity and the race are two very distinct things and the grand parent was not talking about that some alien race, but one who wants to be on the tabloid grocery market isle.

        But the point is that the cardassians were supposed to be nazis. Bajor was obviously isreal, klingons germans, romulans russians, etc.

        North korea on the other hand are the ones with the spaceship that "wont go" and needs geordi to fix them, only to have his good will taken advantage of by malevolent im

        • by Fjandr (66656)

          North Korea is the Ferengi, without the lobes for business.

        • by khallow (566160)

          klingons germans, romulans russians, etc.

          I believe the Klingons and Romulans were crudely based on the USSR and Communistic China respectively. Keep in mind that China in the 60s was pretty much as isolated from the West as North Korea is now, which is a better match for the secretive and xenophobic Romulans than the Soviet Russians who tended to have schemes brewing everywhere and had a far more interventionist approach (which fits the Klingons much better).

          • I believe the Klingons and Romulans were crudely based on the USSR and Communistic China respectively. Keep in mind that China in the 60s was pretty much as isolated from the West as North Korea is now, which is a better match for the secretive and xenophobic Romulans than the Soviet Russians who tended to have schemes brewing everywhere and had a far more interventionist approach (which fits the Klingons much better).

            Interesting. If we assume the analogues were deliberate, it makes me wonder about the Vulcans. My first guess would be Japan - an ancient society that turned away from its violent past in pursuit of logic and knowledge. I'm by no means an expert on international relations back in the '60s - not sure how good a fit this is. Particularly since the Vulcan's violent period is ancient history in all the Trek cannon, whereas it was still very fresh in the middle-aged WW2 vets back in the '60s.

            Gotta say, stuff

    • When I see NK doing testing with rockets I just get reminded of the family guy episode where Peter crashes the petercopter then the hindenpeter into Joe's front yard.

      "How can you afford these things?!"

  • Censoring by copyright, the law is working well for the masters.

    However, not that one should like the North Korean proganda makers, but that is besides the point here.

    • Well, as much as I hate "Big Content providers" and their shills, I can totally see why Activision does not want to see its content in NK propaganda video.
    • by Smauler (915644)

      This is exactly what copyright is for, or what it should be for. Moral and ethical issues about where the product you have produced are much much much more important than financial ones. I don't quite know where you are coming from with this.

      Copyright is by it's very nature censorship. That's its point. Unless you disavow it altogether, you support censorship.

      • by tnk1 (899206)

        Let's avoid the confusion of terms.

        Copyright is not censorship, it is a licensing scheme for the use of written and recorded works to induce authors/publishers to produce works, not to discourage them.

        Censorship is government action to stop speech or publication based on the content of the speech, without regard to the "ownership" of the content.

        The reality that copyright can seem like censorship in some facets of enforcement does not make it censorship, because in the end, the government does not enforce b

  • by Zeni (52928) on Wednesday February 06, 2013 @08:05PM (#42815983)

    WTF? Really We are the World that crappy 80's song so we give money to the starving people of Africa.

    Oh I get it DPRK is starving and that's their way of saying please help us.

    • by tnk1 (899206)

      That's actually what it is... except that the government wants the help without compromising on their complete and absolute power.

      They are poking at us because they know we won't attack them. They also know that if they launched a nuke at the US, North Korea would be a smoking crater 30 minutes later, and there would be nowhere in the world that the Kim family could hide, even if they survived the retaliatory strike.

      The point of the exercise is to rile us up enough that politically there becomes pressure t

  • I'm sure there is a argument for that somewhere? Regardless of message, it is not just a clip of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3.
  • North Korean strikes first loser North Korean

  • Anyone notice the theme music in the video? A strangely sappy song to have playing for the nuking of New York.

    Oh, and I'll bet they didn't get permission for the song either as well as the Activision video. Wait until the RIAA bills Dear Leader for eleventy billion dollars for lost revenue. That'll fix 'em.

  • Fair Use (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Frankie70 (803801) on Wednesday February 06, 2013 @09:38PM (#42816653)

    Isn't it covered by 'Fair Use'?

    • In what way? In checking the four considerations for Fair Use in the US, I'm not seeing how any of them (other than perhaps the point about affecting the market value of the work) favor the idea that they were engaging in Fair Use. The fact that the clip is fictional, was used for their own profit, and that it made up a major piece of their video (i.e. that they didn't contribute much, at least, based on the descriptions I've read, since I can't find the original clip) all work against them in this case.

      • "The fact that the clip is fictional, was used for their own profit, and that it made up a major piece of their video (i.e. that they didn't contribute much, at least, based on the descriptions I've read"

        Profit? These guys are old-line Commies, so profit is probably the least of their motives, unless they've become so bankrupt they need to cash in on their YouTube hits. As for "fictional", I'd say much of what politicians claim during election season falls under that same broad category.

        While I suspect the

        • Profit? These guys are old-line Commies, so profit is probably the least of their motives

          Oh come off it, the whole commie thing is just an excuse for the fat cats at the top to live it up with hookers and blow while the rest of the population languishes in a human hell.

    • Probably not [wikipedia.org]. Having only a small sample usually isn't enough to get a fair use defense by itself.
    • No it is not. Glorious Leader should sue those thieving imperialist talentless hacks at Activision for stealing his footage which he made himself by typing out the binary.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    • by Smauler (915644)

      Ok... that video was interesting, thanks for posting it.

      I also found this [youtube.com], which is slogans of North Korean posters... I was laughing for about 10 minutes, literally. Crap... perhaps it's my sense of humour... I'm crying watching it again.

      ps. it's _very_ anti-American - if you're offended by things like that, don't watch. It's not funny because it's anti-American though.

  • Kidnapping South Korean graphics designers to do an original animation. They have form in this regard, see here
  • NK's Glorious Leader has changed his name to Duke Nukem.

  • Berne convention (Score:5, Interesting)

    by manu0601 (2221348) on Wednesday February 06, 2013 @10:23PM (#42816877)
    For whoever is interested, North Korea signed Berne convention in 2003 [wipo.int]. Foreign author copyright has therefore a meaning for them.
  • by russotto (537200) on Wednesday February 06, 2013 @11:36PM (#42817251) Journal

    Kim Jong-Un wrote Call of Duty himself, in an evening. Activision is the thief here, and they will feel the wrath of the Supreme Leader.

  • by Lorens (597774) on Thursday February 07, 2013 @12:52AM (#42817585) Journal

    we are directed to a copy of the video... on YouTube??

  • Any way... where can I watch the video?
  • Not being familiar with the game: was the video included as such with the game? As a cutscene, introduction or whatever?

    Or was the video a recorded sequence of gameplay? If this is the case, is it right for the games company to have copyright on what I consider user-generated content? Does Notch now have a precedent to take down Youtube videos of Minecraft constructs?

    It's easy to be all neener, neener in this particular case, but IMO we're seeing an abuse of the law here.

  • My first thought was - great - we can save money and remove North Korea as a threat to world peace by employing lawyers to shut them down and save lots of money by reducing military forces.... but then... I got wondering... perhaps the lawyers cost more than battle fleets and jet planes and nuclear missiles? ;-)

  • What about all the other game videos people put up? I smell bullshit.
  • This is bad news for two reasons:

    • 1. We should let North Korean propaganda fly its flag proudly so that everyone can see it for the ridiculousness that it is.
    • 2. This is very clearly fair use.

    Boy, never thought I'd see myself defending North Korea about anything. Looks like in the North Korea vs. MPAA evilness matchup, MPAA wins . . .

  • No way did this come out of North Korea. Anyone believing that is a dropkick.

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