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Islamist Hackers Shut Down Egyptology Research Journal 564

Posted by timothy
from the didn't-go-down-like-that dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Radical Islamist hackers have been harassing Egyptologist Kate Phizackerley's online journal Egyptological and her blog KV64. Phizackerley and her team finally got tired of it and shut their online work down. As blogger Roger Pearse says, 'A bunch of violent scumbags... who never have contributed in any way to the web, have successfully interfered with the scientific effort of the entire human race... Next year there will be more.' How do we route around damage like this?"
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Islamist Hackers Shut Down Egyptology Research Journal

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  • by ameen.ross (2498000) on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @09:32AM (#42656451)

    I have no respect for people who conflate mainstream Sunni Islam with an extremist Twelver Shiite branch. Neither should anyone else.

    Educate yourself people.

  • Technical solution (Score:4, Informative)

    by Yvanhoe (564877) on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @09:36AM (#42656491) Journal
    Use something like http://ruhoh.com/ [ruhoh.com] for your blog : have all your content in an easy-to-mirror git database. Host a backup in github, have friends with backups.

    There is probably a legal solution too, after all, we do complain that this kind of moves are considered like high-level terrorist intrusions. I still find the punishments disproportionate, but they do exist, use the legal process.
  • Re:Pretty Simple (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @09:42AM (#42656547)

    Muslims are the least of our problems. Did you know the majority of complaints to the FCC are the result of one single Christian group trying to impose their standards of decency on the entire country?

  • by CohibaVancouver (864662) on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @09:48AM (#42656611)

    There is no such thing as "Moderate" Islam

    Sure there is - I live in Canada and have good friends who are Ismali Shia Muslims. Generally, most Ismalis you might meet are well educated doctors, dentists, lawyers, engineers. Their women are sexually liberated, educated, respected and aren't wrapped in bedsheets from head to toe. Their leader, the Aga Khan, publicly works for secular pluralism and women's rights.

  • by slashmydots (2189826) on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @09:59AM (#42656725)
    Read the Quran. It strongly promotes violance, sexism, war, intolerance of any other religions, etc. That is Islam whether most muslims act that way or not.
  • by the eric conspiracy (20178) on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @10:08AM (#42656835)

    Radical Muslims are anti-science, just as are radical Christians.

    Islam inherently promotes scientific inquiry.

    From an Islamic standpoint, science, the study of nature, is considered to be linked to the concept of Tawhid (the Oneness of God).

    This link implies a sacred aspect to the pursuit of scientific knowledge by Muslims, as nature itself is viewed in the Qur'an as a compilation of signs pointing to the Divine.

    During the Middle Age the House of Wisdom in Baghdad was a far more advanced center of science than anything in Europe. It's where al-Kwarizmi wrote the al-Kitab al-mukhtasar fi hisab al-jabr wa'l-muqabala. Hint: the word algebra is taken from al-jabr. And al-Kwarizmi became the word algorithm.

    The first empiricists and theoretical physicists are regarded to be Muslims.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Al-Haytham [wikipedia.org]

    It was only when the sons of Genghis Khan rode into Baghdad that this golden age came to an end.

  • by MyLongNickName (822545) on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @10:19AM (#42656991) Journal

    1) What you say is not true. Anonymous targets folks they disagree with.
    2) One can define "actively messing with other people" however they want. A jihadist would use the exact same term to describe what they do.
    2) Even if what you said were entirely true, what you are describing is "vigilantism". In the movies this is great. In the real world you end up with a might makes right society. You and the jihadist are in complete agreement that this is acceptable.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @10:28AM (#42657127)

    apostasy is a death sentence in a number of islamic countries. among them
    pakistan
    saudi arabia
    egypt
    Iran
    being that its government policy and the state religion is islam it can be surmised that the laws reflect the mainstream ME version(s) of islam.
    apostasy=disagreeing with islam
    note:the death sentence is not always carried out but generally some form of severe punishment is
    2nd note:this is not reflective of westernized muslims is europe & north america
     

  • Re:Pretty Simple (Score:5, Informative)

    by alexgieg (948359) <alexgieg@gmail.com> on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @10:57AM (#42657551) Homepage

    Religion is a personal choice.

    The problem is the Koran explicitly says that, except for some very specific situations such as initial conversion into (never out of) Islam, it's not a personal choice, it's a social choice, so the community's decision on the matter is binding to all its members. What this means then, basically, is that requiring of a Muslim to adopt the (Christian, of all things) notion of religion as being a "personal-anything" (no matter the anything: for Islam, from lifestyle to politics, it is never personal), is actually asking him to give up Islam itself. Which is why Muslims tend to become upset when Western powers try to impose their individualist worldview on Islamic collectivist societies. It just doesn't mix well, no matter how much you try to soften the cultural blow.

  • by Psyborgue (699890) on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @11:36AM (#42657917) Homepage Journal
    Only Muslims are considered to be Muslims from birth according to Islam, so nobody really gets a choice. In "democratic" Egypt, just last week seven children were charged, along with the mother, for apostasy [rt.com]. This happens every fucking week if you pay attention.
  • by Psyborgue (699890) on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @11:39AM (#42657959) Homepage Journal
    Cites: the Al-Azhar University in Cairo. Their publications are considered to be canon by most of Sunni Islam, and yest, the death penalty is proscribed for apostasy. Here's some more love from the democratic Egypt [rt.com]. Hey. But at least they didn't kill the mother and kids. Congratulations on cheering on such democratic values of peace and love.
  • by scamper_22 (1073470) on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @12:42PM (#42658733)

    Anytime someone tries to understand Islam by 'reading the Koran', you can pretty much call them an idiot.

    I'm Muslim by background, albeit a very secular one, but I come from a pretty strong religious background.

    The core to Islamic practice is not the Koran, but the Hadith. That is the words and actions of the prophet Mohamed.

    The Koran is actually pretty vague on most things and without the context of the Hadith can be read to mean pretty much anything. Heck, you won't even find the 5 daily prayers Muslims do in the Koran. Nor will you find beards. Nor will you find stoning...

    The core to Islamic belief is the Koran.
    The core to Islamic practice is the Hadith.

    Disclaimer, there a group of Koran-only Muslims who try to take out the Hadith and only focus on the Koran, but they're a miniscule minority and IMHO the koran cannot be understood without the hadith... but if it helps progress Islam I support their efforts even if I think it intellectually dishonest.

  • Re:Pretty Simple (Score:5, Informative)

    by Psyborgue (699890) on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @01:08PM (#42659051) Homepage Journal
    And I see a grand total of six murders according to Wikipedia. Contrast this with over twenty thousand seperate Islamic terrorist incidents since 9/11, and that's not even a body count. Just yesterday there were attacks in Syria, Afghanistan, and Thailand. I hate all religion, but you have to be completely blind to think that every religion is equally harmful.
  • by SplashMyBandit (1543257) on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @01:15PM (#42659153)

    Being "politically correct" is against Free Speech. That's why the Islamists push the politically correct buttons of Westerners to neutralize opposition - they don't want to you speak freely and criticize their genocidal and supremacist ideas. As long as you accept political correctness you will be afraid to offend Muslims. Speaking the truth always offends Muslims because they don't want the Free World to discover the truth about their evil ideology.

    Because of political correctness the Obama Administration has a censor list that bans the Pentagon and FBI from using words like "Islamist", "jihadi", "terrorist" etc. Stephen Coughlin has an excellent series discussing this is detail on Youtube. He shows how the US is winning all the fights on the battlefield but completely losing the "information battlespace" (a situation analagous to Vietnam, except that now the leftist elites in Obama's Administration oppose the war while the citizens can see the necessity of destroying all Islamists no matter what their brand-name is). Here's an example of an eye-opening Stephen Coughlin video (a briefing he has given the Pentagon):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhZe7eZK4dw [youtube.com]

    Although this should be no surprise. The Obama Administration has continued the Bush Administration's policy of outreach to muslims, and now has Muslim Brotherhood affiliates in positions of influence. See: http://www.investigativeproject.org/3869/egyptian-magazine-muslim-brotherhood-infiltrates [investigativeproject.org]
    and the ideologue Obama is informed but refuses to listen to warnings about the Brotherhood. The US Government is not acting in the strategic interest of the people!
    http://www.investigativeproject.org/3877/opposition-leader-obama-administration-downplayed [investigativeproject.org]

    Note that all Islamist groups have the same goals, they just believe in different means to achieve this goal. Therefore: Al Qaeda == Hamas == Hezbollah == Muslim Brotherhood == Salafis == Wahabbis == Boko Haram == Abu Sayyaf etc etc in ideological end-game goals. So when you hear Muslim Brotherhood you are correct in instantly translating that as "Al Qaeda" as they are ideologically end-goal equivalent.

    As long you strive to be politically correct you will be against Free Speech. They are incompatible concepts. As long as the majority support political correctness (euphamistic and untruithful speech) over Free Speech (eg. telling the unvarnished truth) then the Islamist ideologues will win - and they are winning in the West (slowly changing the West to conform to their needs rather than the other way around) because those that are politically correct don't have the courage of their convictions to oppose Islamic supremacism.

    Unlike political correctness, Free Speech is all about the rigths of people to say things we don't want to hear and we may find offensive. If people were only able to stay stuff we agree with we wouldn't need Free Speech laws anyway. The right to speak and offend others *is* the core of Free Speech. That's why political correctness is completely anti-Free Speech. If you support policical correctness (or worse, condemn those who are not politically correct) then you are an opponent of Free Speech.

  • by oreaq (817314) on Tuesday January 22, 2013 @03:36PM (#42660797)

    Christian groups regularly denounce unChristian behavior among other Christian groups. Where does that occur in Islam?

    Here [wikipedia.org].

    It doesn't for two reasons

    You do realize that you live in a complete fantasy world, right?

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