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How Verizon's 'Six Strikes' Plan Works 505

Posted by Soulskill
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An anonymous reader writes "With the 'six-strikes' anti-piracy plan set to begin in the U.S. soon, TorrentFreak has gotten its hands on a document showing how Verizon in particular will be dealing with copyright-infringing users. For your first and second strike, Verizon will email you and leave you a voicemail informing you that your account is involved in copyright infringement. For your third and fourth strikes, the ISP will automatically redirect your browser to a page that requires you to acknowledge receiving the alerts. They'll also play a video about the dangers of infringement. For your fifth and sixth strikes, they give you three options: massively throttle your connection for a few days, wait two weeks and then throttle your connection, or file an appeal with an arbitration service for $35. TorrentFreak points out that the MPAA and RIAA can obtain the connection information of repeat infringers, with which they can then take legal action."
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How Verizon's 'Six Strikes' Plan Works

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  • by decora (1710862) on Friday January 11, 2013 @07:54PM (#42563393) Journal

    why you would use torrent freak when there is Amazon, Netflix, Youtube, Hulu, and dozens of other ways to get video online.

    unless you are trying to find some hard to find video -- (like Aleksandr Ptushko's 1972 Russian fantasy film, Ruslan and Ludmila?.. oh wait, thats on fucking youtube for free) -- what is the point of "avoiding paying for" transformers 3 or harry potter? I mean can you not afford the massive 4 dollar price or whatever that they charge you to watch this stuff online? Is 5 bucks going to break you?

  • by dadelbunts (1727498) on Friday January 11, 2013 @08:00PM (#42563433)
    Because i dont always have the bandwith to stream movies when i want, as other people use the internet as well. Because i like having media that i can enjoy when i dont have internet, when im not at home. Because 5 dollars for every movie or episode of a show id like to watch will break me.
  • Re:What's a strike? (Score:1, Informative)

    by Delarth799 (1839672) on Friday January 11, 2013 @08:16PM (#42563579)
    We all know its going to be about your IP address being flagged and no questions asked.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 11, 2013 @08:17PM (#42563603)

    why you would use torrent freak when there is Amazon, Netflix, Youtube, Hulu, and dozens of other ways to get video online.

    1. because it does not work on linux
    2. because you are not allowed to save the media
    3. because some of them do not allow movies licensed under CC
    4. because not everyone is entitled to a credit card

    it is like saying you can only walk when green light is on. problem is that red is constantly put into your eyes. this is how fucked up this system is.

  • by Wesley Felter (138342) <wesley@felter.org> on Friday January 11, 2013 @08:20PM (#42563623) Homepage

    You're allowed to use the open wifi defense one time. (And you have to pay $35 to defend yourself, which pirates are too cheap to do.) After that it's assumed that you learned how to secure it.

  • Re:Little weasels... (Score:5, Informative)

    by fahrbot-bot (874524) on Friday January 11, 2013 @08:38PM (#42563789)

    I noticed that there is no mention of a complete disconnection--leaving the door open for continued billing even though you have an almost useless connection for two weeks. Me thinks Verizon is afraid they will start losing customers permanently if they disconnect them, even for a short time. There is no discussion of a 7th strike, or an 8th...what happens then? You get another two weeks of shit connection.

    For fuck's sake, stop jerking you knee and take 2 minutes to read TFA dumb ass or, if you did, learn how to read.

    It's a 2/3 *day* slowdown after strikes #5/6:

    Alert 5 and 6:

    “You can: Agree to an immediate temporary (2 or 3 day) reduction in the speed of your Internet access service to 256kbps (a little faster than typical dial-up speed); Agree to the same temporary (2 or 3 day) speed reduction but delay it for a period of 14 days;

    And after strike #6:

    If more infringements are found after the sixth alert “nothing” will happen. The user will receive no more alerts and can continue using his or her Internet connection at full speed.

    However – and this is not mentioned by Verizon – the MPAA and RIAA may obtain the IP-addresses of such repeat infringers in order to take legal action against them. While the ISPs will not voluntarily share the name and address linked to the IP-address, they can obtain a subpoena to demand this information from the provider.

  • by icebike (68054) on Friday January 11, 2013 @09:37PM (#42564205)

    Where the hell do you live? Back woods of Kentucky or some place?

    I use a War Driving app (WiGLE WIFI) on my android on my rides and walks around my area, and open WIFI is a rarity in residential areas.
    I mean like one house in a hundred. In my subdivision of 75 houses there isn't even one unencrypted router. Not one.
    (There are several routers with Guest accounts, but even these require a password after you get an IP).

    There are some facts an figures about this gleaned from users of this app posted here: https://wigle.net/gps/gps/main/stats/ [wigle.net]
    Unencrypted wifi is on a steady downward trend, now down to about 18% over all areas that WiGLE users visit.

    When you allow for those that are open on purpose (coffee shops restaurants, libraries) you are probably down to 12% of residential
    users leave their wifi open.

  • by schnell (163007) <me&schnell,net> on Friday January 11, 2013 @11:26PM (#42564847) Homepage

    Can I place copyright infringements with Verizon to get people blocked?

    Sure. 10 seconds of Googling found this [verizonbusiness.com] link. BTW if you want to report someone for child pornography, go here [verizonbusiness.com].

    Anyone can report anyone else, that's how it works... so if you have actual evidence that "we all know that the MPAA and RIAA use their internet connections for infringement" then you can report it and give them a taste of their own medicine and we all win. Looking forward to it!

  • by houghi (78078) on Saturday January 12, 2013 @09:08AM (#42566673)

    You were doing fine till the Yeah, probably part. You just assumed that people will not sign up because they saw the video. Completely ignoring the fact that the opposite will also be as probable.
    Some people will join your course because they saw your video.

    The huge question is if there are more or less people that will subscribe after seeing the video? No matter what the outcome, now that your video is out and you know others will get out as well, you must adapt your business plan.

    Instead of looking it as lost revenue, look at it as a profit center and even free advertisement.

    You just concentrate on the few who will not take up your course because they saw the movie. Why not concentrate on the many who previously never heard of you and are now interested.

    Sure, if your video shows how you keep kicking people in the groin to motivate them and that is the reason they do not want to join, then perhaps it is GOOD they were warned.

    What if it is not a practical but a theoretical course in say perl or C++. I come to your course and take my own notes and you learn me everything you know. I now start my own course with YOUR knowledge. Would that be ok? What if I memorize your course and give it word by word? What if I videotape it? What if you videotape it?
    At what point does it become theft?

    It is very had to argue and no matter where you draw the line, it will be discussable. The reason is that it is not really theft. It is copyright infringement and because it is different, it is treated different.

    Just like there is a difference between murder and manslaughter, there is a difference between theft and copyright infringement.

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