Samsung Retaliates Against Ericsson With Patent Complaint 43
An anonymous reader writes "The wireless patent wars don't pause at Christmas time, keeping numerous IP lawyers (and a certain litigation watcher) busy even at this time of year. No one seriously expected Samsung to turn the other cheek when Ericsson sued it and requested a U.S. import ban against a host of Galaxy devices. The Korean electronics giant, which is increasingly competing with Ericsson in the telecoms infrastructure market, just filed an ITC complaint of its own. The title of the complaint is Certain Wireless Communication Equipment and Articles Therein. That description would apply to dozens, no: hundreds, of patent lawsuits in the world. The complaint has not been published yet, but it would be out of character for Samsung not to assert some of its patents on wireless industry standards (and maybe some others, too)." (Also at the BBC.)
Re:Retaliate? (Score:4, Informative)
Yeah, total coincidence Samsung ignored this blatent infringement for years and only filed a lawsuit after Erricsson did first. On second thought, maybe your dictionary is broken.
retaliate (v) make a counterattack and return like for like, especially evil for evil; (and this is slashdot, where patents are evil).
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Those aren't mutually exclusive. Samsung is entirely capable of rationally deciding that retaliation maximizes near and long term value.
So begins the patent war (Score:1)
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Sounds like the tittle of a new TLC or PBS program.
Separate section needed on Slashdot.. (Score:2)
patentwars.slashdot.org
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idiotic-patents.slashdot.org
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thermonuclear.slashdot.org
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something else; too many articles these days about patents and such. Maybe Armageddon is at hand?
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patentwars.slashdot.org or idiotic-patents.slashdot.org or thermonuclear.slashdot.org or something else; too many articles these days about patents and such. Maybe Armageddon is at hand?
I've been thinking the same thing for several months now. There seem to be more stories about tech companies suing each other than anything else on /. anymore.
Does anyone else remember when /. reported tech news and was not a tech patent lawsuit site?
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There seem to be more stories about tech companies suing each other than anything else on /. anymore.
That's because, in the US, that's about the only new technical development that's happening. Anything actually productive has fled to parts of the world where such things are still legal. ;-)
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Or because most of the other news articles generally deteriorate into flame wars.
Facebook announces something! Comments: Facebook sucks. It steals your information, blah blah blah.
Google announces something! Comments:
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Your wish is my command [slashdot.org].
My patent for "Doing Stuff with Things" . . . (Score:3)
That covers just about anything.
Even "Certain Wireless Communication Equipment and Articles Therein".
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Sorry, I hold the patent for doing stuff without things. Doing stuff with things is just doing stuff without things but with things. You are hereby directed to cease and desist all doings. You may license the technology for the fair and reasonable obligation of twelve years indentured servitude. In the event your location prohibits such servitude, you may relocate prior to licensing. Please note that relocating and licensing both constitute doing stuff and will incur penalties unless you have already licens
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My patent for "Doing Stuff with Things" that covers just about anything.
Fortunately, according to bosses around the world, your patent doesn't apply to Slashdot commenters: "You're not doing anything! Get back to Work!"
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Now let's see what happens when it is Samsung doing what Apple does.
There's a small flaw in your point. Samsung is defending against a patent threat by Ericsson; Samsung has never been the patent aggressor against any competitor; it has always defended by counter-suing.
Apple, on the other hand... have gone thermonuclear with no heed or regard to the consequences.
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There's a small flaw in your point. Samsung is defending against a patent threat by Ericsson; Samsung has never been the patent aggressor against any competitor; it has always defended by counter-suing.
There's a small flaw in your point. Apple never copied anyone's phone design. They are defending themselves against a blatantly copied phone that's infringing upon their potential marketshare, like any responsible company should do.
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Apple invented the touch screen phone shaped like a rectangle with round corners? I'de like to direct your attention to the IBM Simon (1993), the Ericsson P800 or the OS XDA Flame. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot that there were no phones or mp3 players before apple invented them.
The whole patent systems needs a rework to bring it up to speed with today's technology. Asking that they get it ready for tomorrow's is wishful thinking at best.
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The Simon looks like a brick with a monochrome LCD panel - probably nice, but low res, and not touch screen - it was 1993 after all. The P800 was a flip phone, with extremely limited functionality in comparison with an iphone or any modern smartphone. The OS XDA Flame came out after the announcement/demo of the iPhone. Regarding MP3 players, yes, there were MP3 players prior to Apple's ipod. Many, in fact. Now ask yourself why Apple took over the market with a higher priced device with a niche platform (rec
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Nevermind that Samsung and Apple were suing each other at the same time.
Like getting their home country to pass protectionist trade laws, getting the Galaxy banned for two years in the United States? Oh wait, that was South Korea banning the iPhone.
Haterz gotta hate.
Incorrect summary... (Score:2)
The title of the complaint is Certain Wireless Communication Equipment and Articles Therein. That description would apply to dozens, no: hundreds, of patent lawsuits in the world. The complaint has not been published yet,
Wrong. The referenced site, fosspatents.com has this update, in a separate blog post:
Meanwhile I've been able to download a copy of Samsung's complaint and can provide more information on the patents-in-suit and the products and technologies at issue.
and then it goes on to list the 7 pate
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I wouldn't want to mess with Samsung (Score:2)
Samsung Techwin makes the K9 Thunder self-propelled howitzer.
It's Christmas time !!! (Score:2)
Like everyone else lawyers need to get something nice at this time of year. What better than to initiate some nice expensive legal action! With a bit of luck it will keep them going until Santa comes again.
He who is without patent can throw the first (Score:2)
..... lawsuite
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Ericsson's revenue (Score:2)
http://topnews.us/content/251574-ericsson-lay-1500-employees-sweden [topnews.us]
No wonder Ericsson desperately wants money.
The description is irrelevant (Score:2)
The title of the complaint is Certain Wireless Communication Equipment and Articles Therein. That description would apply to dozens, no: hundreds, of patent lawsuits in the world.
"The title of the complaint is 'State v. Jones'. That description would apply to dozens, no: hundreds, of criminal actions in the world."
Similar concept. The title is irrelevant, Subby. It simply identifies the general subject matter as a way of checking to see if you've got the right suit, because if you have a single digit typo in your case number, you might get "Balloon Dissection Devices" or "Olive Oil" or "Ground Fault Interrupters and Products" [usitc.gov]. I'm not sure whether this was an attempt to spread FUD
Right up there with Apple (Score:2)
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Well, while it's true that Ericsson no longer makes mobile phones, that was actually a far more recent development than you seem to believe. Up until early 2012 Ericsson still made mobile phones, in joint partnership with Sony, under the Sony-Ericsson brand. They made some pretty neat smartphones as well: you might have heard of the Sony-Ericsson Xperia line of Android phones. In February 2012, Ericsson sold all their shares in SE to Sony, and the former Sony-Ericsson Mobile Communications is now just Sony
The Complaint is Available (Score:2)
https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/International_Trade_Commission/337-2926/Certain_Wireless_Communication_Equipment_and_Articles_Therein/499826/1/ [docketalarm.com]
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