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ACTA Gets Death Certificate In Europe 36

First time accepted submitter Seeteufel writes "The controversial Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement is now officially pronounced dead in the E.U. The European Parliament broadly rejected the Anti-Counterfeiting Agreement a while ago, but there was still a court case pending at the European Court of Justice about the legality of ACTA. The Commission was open about its intent to reintroduce ACTA ratification to the Parliament after a positive Court decision. Now we learn the Commission has withdrawn its questions to the Court."
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ACTA Gets Death Certificate In Europe

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 21, 2012 @09:12AM (#42358609)

    First thought: GREAT!
    Second thought: It's better for them to not have a court ruling saying that some of the ACTA content violate some EU principles when they will try to re-introduce the same content in CETA.

  • by bmo ( 77928 ) on Friday December 21, 2012 @09:21AM (#42358665)

    The Copyright Kleptocracy has more money, better liquor, better caviar, better boats, better golf clubs, and better organization than you. They also rely on "crisis fatigue" where people like you and me have more pressing things just trying to get through life.

    We will see another version of ACTA under a different name byJune 2013, and if that fails, another one after that, and another, etc. And should they get one actually passed, they will push the envelope, probably not even stopping at an actual death penalty (they already participate in financial death penalties).

    Kyle Reese: Listen, and understand. The Copyright Kleptocracy is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

    --
    BMO

    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Copyright Kleptocracy

      Typical crap from those who produce nothing.

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by Anonymous Coward

        Per your own admission, they are indeed producing something (ie, crap). Therefore, your statement about them producing nothing is wrong.

        OK, now seriously, the term "copyright kleptocracy" applies to those people who think that their defense of their intellectual property supersedes every single right and prerogative that other people may have. I have no problem with people defending what is theirs, but that does not mean that you must force innocent people to go bankrupt just to "set an example," or force y

    • The key then is to help fund the Anti-Kleptocracy resistance (see OpenMedia for example), so that there's the Kyle Reese types completely dedicated to fight for us.
    • We can win if the politicians get a clue and start viewing support for the CK as bad for their free lunch tickets.

    • by sribe ( 304414 )

      Allow me to correct a small oversight on your part:

      The Copyright Kleptocracy has more money, better liquor, better caviar, better boats, better golf clubs, better organization, and more hookers than you.

      • by bmo ( 77928 )

        Yeah, I only thought of the "hookers and blow" after I posted.

        You are absolutely right.

        --
        BMO

        • by sribe ( 304414 )

          Yeah, I only thought of the "hookers and blow" after I posted.

          Duh, yeah, I forgot the cocaine. Figures. Reflects my own preferences: a horndog with no interest in drugs ;-)

          • by bmo ( 77928 )

            I have you foed for some reason, and it just occurred to me that I no longer remember why I have a whole bunch of people foed, including you.

            Time to clean.

            --
            BMO

          • by bmo ( 77928 )

            I unfoed you and a few other people, but the process is so slow waiting for the page to refresh and I have so many to go through that I had to give up unless you (or anyone else) have a tip on how to do a batch process. I've done a list of URLs with UIDs but FF pukes trying to open so many tabs.

            I'm going to have to look at what happens when I click on "I'm sure" and I can't be arsed right now.

            --
            BMO

    • Don't be so negative.  They can--and will--be defeated.  It's only a matter of time.

      We would just prefer it not be a thousand years.

      But I suspect it will be much shorter than that.  The younger generation is growing up with a contempt for them.
      • by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

        It's actually the exact opposite. They are the ones on the offensive and they are the ones that will likely eventually win. Younger generation fully embraced massive levels of DRM and draconian content consumption limitations in modern smartphones for example.

  • by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 ) on Friday December 21, 2012 @09:31AM (#42358723)

    ACTA may = windows 8 lock in and that pushed them away from it.

    as under the law you will not be able to bypass a locked boot loader.

  • It's a start to the end of greed. They'll try again, of course.

    • It's a start to the end of greed.

      There is no end to greed. Even those who become selfless crave more and more of it...

  • by qbast ( 1265706 ) on Friday December 21, 2012 @09:43AM (#42358805)
    What copyright lobby does is throwing shit at a wall - almost every time something sticks. Even if whole shot missed (like in case of ACTA), then well - there will be another shot in half a year. See the same stuff pushed as CETA and if this somehow fails, split and attached in small pieces to unrelated bills. Sorry, in current system this fight is impossible to win.
  • meanwhile in Germany (Score:4, Interesting)

    by terec ( 2797475 ) on Friday December 21, 2012 @10:09AM (#42359031)
    I'm glad ACTA didn't make it. But the copyright lobby in Europe remains extremely powerful. For example, in Germany, they have successfully pushed the government to try to implement a copyright on snippets [wikipedia.org]. This follows a long list of pretty hair-raising special rights [wikipedia.org] and fees [wikipedia.org] that different failing industries managed to carve out for themselves. I think the successful fight against ACTA in Europe has less to do with a respect for liberties and privacy and more with simple economic realities: ACTA would primarily have benefited US companies doing business in Europe; European companies are already well protected by draconian European laws.
  • EU vs Human Rights (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    This is not the end. EU Charter of Human rights is different from the European Convention on Human Rights. It has an extra phrase in it:

    "Intellectual property shall be protected."

    Article 17, Right to property.
    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/charter/pdf/text_en.pdf

    This defined Patents Copyrights etc. mostly CORPORATE assets, as equivalent to human property and the right to hold these and have them protected as a fundamental HUMAN right. They contaminated the Human Rights Declaration with their lobbyist crap, w

  • While we were watching this shiny object and trying to block its passage.
    • Just in case you didn't see it, european patents [slashdot.org]... specially the case where the the European patent office have broad powers, poor control and a very bad historic data (ie: likes to give software patents where they are explicit forbidden)

  • by DickBreath ( 207180 ) on Friday December 21, 2012 @12:00PM (#42360191) Homepage
    There are companies who make real physical products that are counterfited by cheap knockoffs. These could have benefited from an anti counterfiting treaty. But Nooooooo. Hollywood hijacked the entire process, in secret, just to take away people's rights under the guise of alleged copyright infringement. Those who ACTA might have benefited can thank Hollywood for killing ACTA.
    • There are companies who make real physical products that are counterfited by cheap knockoffs. These could have benefited from an anti counterfiting treaty. But Nooooooo. Hollywood hijacked the entire process, in secret, just to take away people's rights under the guise of alleged copyright infringement.

      The real kicker is that when you make a knockoff of a digital item it's actually possible for the "counterfeit" item to be better than the original by providing other features -- Already small enough for your portable media player, or removed defective-by-design DRM... It would be as if you counterfeited money, and the bank actually prefers it to legal tender.

      Don't even get me started on artificial scarcity of information. Let's sell Ice to Eskimos! No you fools, that's dumb! We won't make creating

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