McAfee Is Doing a Live Broadcast Tonight 201
paysonwelch writes "John McAfee, famed antivirus software pioneer and human rights advocate, today announced that he will host a news conference to ask the world for its protection against the Government of Belize. On his official blog, whoismcafee.com, Mr. McAfee has accused the Belize government of widespread corruption. Because of this, Mr. McAfee feels that he will be in grave danger if he were to be returned to there."
...and nobody came. (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously, how long are we going to keep feeding this poor nutcase's attention habit?
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Three, four more weeks, till some interesting football games come up.
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Not if the accusations on McAfee and Assange turn out to be true.
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We had the most interesting football game of the season yesterday - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20571835 [bbc.co.uk] . That didn't help.
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thirty days.
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Seriously, how long are we going to keep feeding this poor nutcase's attention habit?
When he stops acting like Charlie Sheen giving Britney Spears a piggyback ride.
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Human rights advocate? (Score:5, Insightful)
John McAfee, famed antivirus software pioneer and human rights advocate...
I would have worded that slightly differently. Maybe something like this:
John McAfee, famed antivirus software pioneer, paranoiac, hedonistic designer drug addict, possible crack head, and guy with a really bad dye job...
Yes... Maybe something like that.
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Or it could be even simpler: his neighbour/enemy turned up dead, he bolted, the police want him for questioning, and now he's making excuses to avoid justice.
Nothing in this case seems to suggest any kind of corruption on Belize authorities part, so why assume it? McAfee, on the other hand, sure is making everything he possibly can to appear as a criminal on the run.
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So inbetween your barbarous foaming exhortations to violence, can you provide any actual evidence that proves he's done something really wrong/bad to deserve to be the object of violence and to even have due process rights violated?
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Is it a crime in any jurisdiction to have an "out of control ego" or is that some vague negative thing you just resort/allude to when you have no evidence someone has done something wrong but still feel like using violence against them?
Giant Electronic Bra: John McAfee deserves to be killed by corrupt cops
Q: Why? What's he done wrong?
Giant Electronic Bra: Why it's obvious, he has an "out of control ego" and is on a "short road to hell".
Q: But what is his crime?
Giant Electronic Bra: Like I said, he has an "o
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And the accepted way for people to be proven guilty is for them to be brought to trial. McAfee appears to believe not in 'innocent until proven guilty', as he's dead set against giving anyone a chance to prove him guilty in court. He appears to believe in 'innocent until caught'.
thought experiment (Score:5, Insightful)
Wouldn't it be funny if this McAfee guy was telling the truth?
Just because you're weird doesn't mean you're a liar. I'm not saying he's not cuckoo, but stranger things have happened than what McAfee is asserting happened to him.
I just hope he doesn't get hurt and doesn't hurt anyone. And I hope he's merely delusional.
Re:thought experiment (Score:5, Interesting)
Living in a corrupt country myself for the last 6 years, I'm inclined to believe at least some of what he says. Growing up in a western country it's very hard to understand how corrupted a place can be without spending significant time there.
Re:thought experiment (Score:4, Interesting)
This. The rule of law is a very ephemeral thing in much of the world, and you can sit there whining about your rights for as long as it takes you to be dragged out into a back alley and ended. That doesn't mean McAfee is innocent, but I'm a big fan of the "until proven guilty" part of that picture myself.
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It is amazing how little people understand about the way the world works outside of the major countries. To me Mcaffe's fear seems totally reasonable. The guy can be a bit weird at times, but that doesn't make him guilty.
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It is amazing how little people understand about the way the world works outside of the major countries. To me Mcaffe's fear seems totally reasonable. The guy can be a bit weird at times, but that doesn't make him guilty.
Yes, but it does make him delusional for thinking that he either lived by some different special rules with different special privileges because HE was from a "first world" country, or equally as delusional thinking he had the power to change a corrupt Banana Republic...
The man is nuttier that rap crap in a pistachio factory.
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delusional for thinking that he either lived by some different special rules with different special privileges
Wow, you REALLY do not get third world countries at all. That is pretty much the definition of a third world country, lots of people living by special rules with different special privileges.
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Wow, you REALLY do not get third world countries at all.I've lived in several "third world countries", but I never think I can "change" the politics, I play by the rules and pay who needs to be paid.
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Yes, but it does make him delusional for thinking that he either lived by some different special rules with different special privileges because HE was from a "first world" country
Due process is not a "special privilege", it's a basic, fundamental human right that should be afforded to all human beings on earth. Due process may not be universally applied, but the principles of due process are universal.
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Well, you're wrong. If you're in China, due process is a special privilege. Don't believe me? Go to China and join a government protest. See how the President's son gets escorted out by smiling unarmed riot police, while the rest of you mooks get run over with tanks and beaten with bamboo rods? That's because you're not specially privileged.
You can cry about "fundamental human rights" all you want, but you're still getting fisted by a giant gorilla in a country that doesn't have a special piece of pap
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Given a third-world country, this is a perfectly plausible scenario:
He gets to live there and do whatever the hell he wants. He is above the law. He can do this as long as he keeps the right people happy, and the right bribes flowing. His lawyer was a government official familiar with the bribe system, so he was probably the one advising him on the proper bribes and ass-kissing.
But then he pisses someone off, forgets a bribe, or one of the officials finds out his bribe is less than others, or something else
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I grew up in a corrupt third world country so I also have a fair understanding, and agree it gives a different perspective.
Like the guy or not, being civilized means we believe in the global principles of due process, which means yes, even for people whose personalities we don't like.
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Sigh. Again, people seem to be taking McAfee's description of Belize at face value.
Tip: don't. It's a former British colony with a by-and-large functional democracy and court system. And he _fricking well chose to live there_, to take advantage of its lax law enforcement regarding taxes and/or drugs. Seems a bit rich to start loudly protesting about said legal system once it stops serving your ends.
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Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you
Also, the sky is blue, and water is wet (Score:3, Insightful)
A Central American government with widespread corruption? Say it isn't so !
must-see TV (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm going to pitch a reality show to the networks starring McAfee, Julian Assange and Kim Dotcom.
The Larry, Moe and Curly of Internet head cases. And each week they travel the world to interview other Internet head cases that are simultaneously heroes and repulsive. Hilarity and pie fights ensue.
The opening credits are their three faces, arranged side by side in the manner of the famous opening for Three Stooges episodes. Or maybe dress them up like D'Artagnan, Porthos and Aramis. Or Groucho, Harpo and Chico.
Tell me you wouldn't watch those three lovable knuckleheads get into trouble and adventure. Get some woman to play a Margaret Dumont type character and you've really got a hit on your hands.
Re:must-see TV (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm going to pitch a reality show to the networks starring McAfee, Julian Assange and Kim Dotcom.
The Larry, Moe and Curly of Internet head cases. ...
While I can understand calling McAfee a head case, not sure what Julian or Kim have done to be called that.
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I meant "head case" as a term of endearment. I'm a big fan of Assange, though I'm not sure I'd want to be his friend. There is much to admire about him.
Dotcom is a lovable lunk and I had a dear friend in college who was a lot like McAfee.
I also use "head case" in reference to ego.
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who would play Athos?
Re:must-see TV (Score:5, Funny)
... interview other Internet head cases that are simultaneously heroes and repulsive.
I presume their first guest will be Richard Stallman?
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The Larry, Moe and Curly of Internet head cases. And each week they travel the world to interview other Internet head cases
So, clearly RMS would be the first guest?
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RMS would be the stuffy guy they'd hit with a cream pie in every episode.
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I would totally watch it even if it is on cable/satellite. [grin]
systems running mcafee are in grave danger of runn (Score:3)
systems running mcafee are in grave danger of ruining slow or crashing.
Paying USA taxes looking pretty good now, eh John? (Score:3, Funny)
How's dodging taxes working out for you? USA due process seems pretty good now, right? Maybe even USA jails.
You know what, fuck you. You didn't want to be here. So fine, you get to stay there, wherever it is. Fuck you.
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You seem to confuse our governments first world problems which are trivial at best with real issues in a central american country.
You have no clue what a corrupt government is.
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Yeah...no. It's not the same. As an analogy, that's like saying crime is crime, no matter how major or minor it is when comparing murder to jaywalking.
America has its fair share of problems, and I sure hope that the US gets better, but I completely disagree with your statement.
In for a penny, in for a pound. (Score:3)
Mr. McAfee has accused the Belize government of widespread corruption.
Says the sixty-seven year old guy who bought an off-shore island retreat for himself, seven barely-of-age sexual playmates, and the chance to fry his brain, and perhaps those of the girls as well, with an unlimited supply of home-brewed psychoactive drugs.
The guy who escaped to a country
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Mr. McAfee has accused the Belize government of widespread corruption.
Says the sixty-seven year old guy who bought an off-shore island retreat for himself
Indeed, he did choose to live there, and perhaps corruption was a factor leading to that choice: a wonderful country where you live above the law if you have money. Now things turned wrong, it is time to complain about corruption.
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Replying to undo incorrect moderation You're absolutely right.
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Mr. McAfee has accused the Belize government of widespread corruption.
Says the sixty-seven year old guy who bought an off-shore island retreat for himself, seven barely-of-age sexual playmates, and the chance to fry his brain, and perhaps those of the girls as well, with an unlimited supply of home-brewed psychoactive drugs.
Since you describe the girls as barely legal they must in fact be legal, so I'm having a hard time finding anything in his actions that justify framing him for murder. (I don't know if that's what happened, but that's his assertion, so it's he talking point.)
Rectal Insertion (Score:2)
Tabloid Content? (Score:2)
Irony (Score:4)
I find it kind of funny how a guy that left America to avoid paying taxes is now hoping to get back in due to (as he claims) being framed for a murder after not paying bribes to the government. Oh, so now you want to pay taxes and get my sympathy? Nice.
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??? You do realize that under US taxation law, US citizens are required to pay taxes on income earned globally wherever they are in the world? You can go live in the most remote spot in Antarctica and you are still required to pay your taxes on every cent you earn.
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I don't believe that's correct; if you are a US citizen, live outside the US and work outside the US, you are still liable to pay US taxes. Now, there is a fairly generous exclusion you can claim that, for most people, will completely nullify their tax obligation. But if you earn enough money (for 2011, the amount was US$92,900), you will still be liable for taxes on the marginal amount above the exclusion.
It's called the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion.
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Why isn't he trying to be sent to the US? (Score:3)
Guatemala wants to deport him to Belize, but he is a US citizen. Instead of trying to stay in Guatemala, I would think he has a better chance of convincing them to return him to the US (at his expense, due to the greater distance compared to Belize) than of being allowed to stay in Guatemala.
But I see no sign that he's trying to go back to the US. Did he surrender his US citizenship?
Why do you think he has any say? (Score:4, Interesting)
Guatemala wants to deport him to Belize, but he is a US citizen.
Right here you know something fishy is up.
Guatemala has no extradition treaty with Belize. The fact that he is an American citizen means that automatically, that is where he should be sent when deported, he has no say in the matter since he has entered the country illegally.
Being deported to Belize means someone, or many someones are being paid off by Belize.
Unfortunately for McAffee, he's been deemed wacky enough that the U.S. government seems unlikely to try and help him, even though he'll probably be killed if sent to Belize.
Fortunately for McAffee, he has a lot of money (apparently). The delay you see in deportation is probably the attempt to get him to out-bid Belize.
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He is being deported because he is in Guatemala illegally, not because Belize wants him, so extradition treaties aren't relevant here.
If US border patrols see someone crossing the border from Mexico illegally, I guess they send them straight back. They don't check their passport first, or if they do check their passport, it is to confirm that the crossing was illegal, not to determine where to send them back to.
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If US border patrols see someone crossing the border from Mexico illegally, I guess they send them straight back.
And if the U.S. border patrol caught an illegal immigrant from Mexico near the Canadian border, would they send him to Canada? I don't think so. People being deported go back to country of origin.
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Guatemala has no extradition treaty with Belize. The fact that he is an American citizen means that automatically, that is where he should be sent when deported, he has no say in the matter since he has entered the country illegally.
Since when is an extradition treaty required to return a fugitive from Belize to Belize?
Belize has a broadly worded "mutual legal assistance" treaty with the U.S. It doesn't have to charge McAfee with a crime before demanding his return. It only has to show that hos testimony is needed and relevant to a a criminal investigation.
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Since when is an extradition treaty required to return a fugitive from Belize to Belize?
When he's not a citizen of Belize. Then all you can do normally is return the person to the country they have a passport for.
If I flew to Belize, and snuck into Guatemala I assure you I would not be sent to Belize, I would be deported to the U.S.
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He is deported to the country that requests it for crimes committed there.
I know that is a strange concept for yanks but hey, butter up buttercup.
No; like the GP stated, Guatemala and Belize do not get along. They do not have an extradition treaty and are currently disputing their border. Also he is not a citizen of Belize, so why should they deport him to Belize? When people come into the US illegally from Canada or Mexico, we don't load them back up on a truck and dump them across the boarder. We fly them back to their home country. In this case the only reason he should be sent to Belize is for extradition, and not for entering the country ill
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He's in Guatemala illegally - when you are deported, you are generally sent back to the country you came from.
If that were true you could never deport anyone that come in to your country from a place they were not a citizen of.
Or what happens when they do not know how you entered the country? You just get to stay? They pick a random country and send you there hoping the other country takes you?
It just happens that in this case Belize wants McAffee. But what if they didn't want to arrest him. Why would B
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If he returns to the US, he has to stand trial for all US crimes he's violated. Sex with an underaged (under 18) person (even if local law says younger is age-of-consent), use of illegal substances, anything that violates US federal statutes.
Don't be ridiculous. Have you never left the country, ever? Immigration and customs does not ask you whether you have ever used drugs or how old the people you've slept with are. If McAfee has been convicted of serious crimes in foreign countries there may be problems, and if he's wanted by law enforcement in other countries he may be arrested in the US, but only to be turned over to those authorities to stand trial. There is no retroactive "things you may have done in some country, at some time in your lif
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But I see no sign that he's trying to go back to the US. Did he surrender his US citizenship?
It's been reported in news stories and by McAfee himself [whoismcafee.com] that he spoke with the American embassy in Guatemala about returning to the US. They said they wouldn't help him. Presumably something about respecting the sovereignty of both Guatemala and Belize, and the right of each to enforce its own laws on people within its own borders.
Uh-huh. (Score:3)
He's not a murderer and methcook. He's just a victim of circumstance and government conspiracy just like Hans fucking Reiser.
Who edits this crap?
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Hate is strong here (Score:2)
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Re:I don't know about the man... (Score:5, Insightful)
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I did a "quick google search" and I still don't get it - it looks like he was trying to develop new forms of antibiotics, which could help cure disease - is that evil? He bought some property and sold it again? Is that evil? Should I do a slow Google search rather, or are you perhaps just going to provide us some direct links?
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"Antibiotics" is a euphemism for something a lot more dodgy here, and it is most likely these "antibiotics" or "bath salts" that are making him behave like a madman.
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I just tried Bing, but by the time I got to around page 20 (skipping every 4-5 pages), I was given a captcha trying to get me to type some bullshit hard-to-read gibberish in to verify I'm not a machine. Fuck that shit, and I'll pass on using Bing in the future. Nice try, Microsoft. Not only did I still not find anything relevant, I was unable to skip through the search results to actually find something of interest without being bothered and accused of being a malicious computer.
"We know you want to get
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Google lets you easily search specific time periods.
Re:I don't know about the man... (Score:5, Insightful)
Following the advice of someone upthread, I googled why McAffee moved to Belize and came up with "Four hours with John McAffee" by Adam Thomson [ft.com], a lively and entertaining read.
The article tells the story of McAffee's education, flight from school, and nearly accidental entrepreneurship and helped me to understand what there is to admire about him, especially given all that I knew about him was that the software bearing his name seems to be reviled by anyone with a technological clue and that he seems to be involved in some kind of chicanery that led to the execution of his neighbor.
On of my favorite parts of the article is its last paragraph, which seems to reveal McAffee has a sense of (ironic) perspective somewhere in among the fantasies occupying his mind:
We took some pictures, shook hands and said our farewells. There was just one more question, though: “Do you have McAfee antivirus on your computer?” He looked at me and put down his cigarette. “I take it off,” he said. “It’s too annoying.”
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You Hypocrites! (Score:4, Funny)
"McAfee's an egomaniacal, drug-addled degenerate! Let me ignore this please! I have to entertain myself with tales of honorable serial-killers!"
I'm pretty sure that there isn't one of you, who'd not give his right-nut, for just ONE of John McAfee's weekends...
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I'm pretty sure that there isn't one of you, who'd not give his right-nut, for just ONE of John McAfee's weekends...
Dude, I wouldn't take a lifetime with a succession of sexually appealing women while driving fast cars and drinking Tequila for one hour of his time.
And that's even assuming that the former option wouldn't be shorter, which it would be for some folks.
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I'm pretty sure that there isn't one of you, who'd not give his right-nut, for just ONE of John McAfee's weekends...
I have heard good things about the weekends in Guatemalan prisons but I doubt they're worth a whole nut.
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Right after I watch Dexter and Homeland, and go to sleep.
no new episodes tonight.
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Sure there are, the penultimate [zap2it.com] episodes [zap2it.com] of their seasons.
ya, dumb ass me. I was looking at starz in the listing instead of showtime. No walking dead or boardwalk empire though.
At least this is the type of mistakes i don't mind making.
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Walking what and Boardwalk who?
Fuck that shit, it's Dexter time.
Re:Yeah, I'll get right on that (Score:4, Funny)
Was blown away by Dexter tonight.
Good! Whatever you did I'm sure you deserved to get blown away by Dexter...
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founder of awful antivirus
Actually, it used to be really good antivirus software.
Of course, the dominant PC operating system at that time was MS-DOS 3.3, but still, it used to be pretty good.
Re:The guy has sex with underage girls (Score:5, Interesting)
17 is not underage in most of the world.
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17 is not underage in most of the world.
16 in Belize, 18 in Guatemala. Ages of consent in North America [wikipedia.org] But generalizations are dangerous and law and custom may differ --- something the American expatriate of a certain age would do well to remember.
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Just stopping to ask those questions is probably why you won't be celebrating retirement by ending up on a sex offenders register.
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The guy has sex with underage girls
Not that same BS again about Samantha being underage.
As much as some of you are repulsed by the idea of a 66 years old man with a 20 years old younger woman, that doesn't make her remotely underage [whoismcafee.com].
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20 years old is not "underage", but don't let things like facts stop you from lying.
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17 is not underage in most parts of the world. In Belieze, they are legal at 16. The UK, where I live is the same except that if you are in a "position of responsibility" in respect of the person in question, eg their teacher, you have to wait until they are 18.
Re:Intel (Score:5, Insightful)
The damage it is doing to the McAfee brand must be significant.
Surely it can't compete with the damage to the brand that's been caused by the software, can it?
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Since the begining of all this I still cant think this is anything other than a publicity stunt, maybe its just me.
Why would he need to do that? He is already Number One out of all the available options. - McAfee
BAZINGA! (also, delete Win32...) (Score:3)
Seriously, is slashdot getting paid to post this retarded shit about a delusional, obscure loser?
He hasn't done anything of note in years, and when he was an actual tech person he made shitty software.
I'm sorry, are you talking about McAfee [slashdot.org] or RMS [slashdot.org]?
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Yeah, that would be a little late. It's been around for a very long time now.
http://www.mcafee.com/us/products/virusscan-enterprise-for-linux.aspx [mcafee.com]