John McAfee Collapses At Guatemala Detention Center 219
An anonymous reader writes with this snippet from ABC News: "Software millionaire John McAfee has been taken to a Guatemala City hospital via ambulance after suffering a possible heart attack at the detention center where he is being held. McAfee, 67 — who may soon be deported back to Belize, where authorities want to question him about the shooting death of his neighbor — was reportedly prostrate on the floor of his cell and unresponsive. He was wheeled into the hospital on a gurney, but when nurses began removing his suit, he became responsive and said, 'Please, not in front of the press.' Earlier today, McAfee had complained of chest pains."
what... (Score:4, Insightful)
...a drama queen
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Exactly what I was thinking.. Also sounds like something out of a movie.
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Better to be prostrate on the floor, than prostate on the floor!
Now that would be a medical emergency!
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McAfee clearly thinks he's living in some sort of action movie, I'm sure he'd appreciate it.
Re:Succes de scandale (Score:5, Funny)
"There is no such thing as bad publicity..." [wikipedia.org]
"...except your own obituary." -- Brendan Behan
Jesus Christ disagrees.
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But why are we comparing Jesus Christ with that drama-queen cum alleged murderer in the first place???
Because either way, you need serious drugs to believe their story.
Oldest Trick in the book (Score:5, Funny)
That is the oldest jail cell trick in the book. I'm glad it still works.
Joseph Elwell.
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Re:Oldest Trick in the book (Score:5, Funny)
From the card:
Dear John, Enjoy the cake, and get well soon. Your friends, Alice, Bob, Eve, and Mallory
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"The cake is a lie."
Re:Oldest Trick in the book (Score:5, Funny)
I heard that Bruce Schnierer is currently baking him a cake with a file in it.
Would he check the file for viruses before opening?
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he only has 30 days.
Re:Oldest Trick in the book (Score:4, Interesting)
Sadly, it doesn't. An acquaintence of mine was jailed for some minor offense here in Sangamon County, and he died in agony from a perforated colon because they thought he just had a stomach ache. Of course, his family sucessfully sued the county for a shitload of money.
They're not going to let you out of custody, they're going to have a guard on you at the hospital. When the hospital releases you, back to jail you go.
Your "oldest trick" is quite ineffective. It also costs the county a lot of money.
Re:Oldest Trick in the book (Score:5, Informative)
In county? Nah, it was probably the arresting officer sodomizing him [pixiq.com] with his taser.
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They're not going to let you out of custody, they're going to have a guard on you at the hospital. When the hospital releases you, back to jail you go.
In McAfee's case, he was actually taken to a police-run hospital. He was never out of custody.
Re:Oldest Trick in the book (Score:5, Funny)
Almost as big as your mom's!
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[...]not all blacks have big cocks, you know[...]
[citation needed]
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If it looks like a heart attack and it acts like a heart attack, then it must be a heart attack.
Meth and cocaine can give the same symptoms of a heart attack, and if you treat them with standard heart attack treatments the patient will often die.
The other possibility is basically, well, withdrawal will do that to you.
No it won't. [wikipedia.org]
Hmm. Yes. "Footballers' injury" I believe. (Score:3, Insightful)
He was unresponsive until he might get embarrased in public and then becomes responsive.
Does this make anyone else think he was faking it, or am I just too jaded?
(PS want a LOL? Captcha: Captures)
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He was unresponsive until he might get embarrased in public and then becomes responsive.
Maybe they applied cortical electrodes.
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If he isn't actually pretending to be a paranoid nutter and actually is terrified for his life because his drug addled mind thinks he's about to be killed I can see someone keeling over from the stress.
Just because the threat is all in his mind doesn't mean he can't give himself a heart attack.
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I think it was probably withdrawal symptoms from whatever dodgy chemicals he ingests.
Withdrawals (Score:5, Insightful)
Wonder if he had to go cold turkey on some addiction
Re:Withdrawals (Score:5, Insightful)
Why do people always target drugs?
Honestly, when you're around 67 years old, I'd like to see you spend a full month running from the government; little sleep, always on the move, old worn down body, hiding in trees, mind fucked from all the worrying...
And *then* try telling me that it's drugs.
I'm not saying that there are in fact no drugs involved--I don't know, and neither do you--but seriously, quit placing the blame for every single health condition on recreational drugs for a change. If drugs are found to be a cause, then you could add those to the potential causes, but don't fucking forget old age, which you don't need any drugs at all to take a toll on your health.
And you know what? A lot of people take drugs, er, I mean "medication" that their doctors prescribe them once they get up in age and start having heart problems (who would've guessed, eh?). Ever think that if he is supposed to be taking prescription drugs, that maybe, just maybe, they're not exactly his top priority while trying to save himself from the Belize government? What if the *lack* of drugs combined with stress and old age are doing him in? There are too many factors that could be involved, do us all a favor and shut the fuck up about recreational drugs.
Re:Withdrawals (Score:5, Informative)
Why do people always target drugs?
Honestly, when you're around 67 years old, I'd like to see you spend a full month running from the government; little sleep, always on the move, old worn down body, hiding in trees, mind fucked from all the worrying...
And *then* try telling me that it's drugs.
I'm not saying that there are in fact no drugs involved--I don't know, and neither do you--but seriously, quit placing the blame for every single health condition on recreational drugs for a change. If drugs are found to be a cause, then you could add those to the potential causes, but don't fucking forget old age, which you don't need any drugs at all to take a toll on your health.
And you know what? A lot of people take drugs, er, I mean "medication" that their doctors prescribe them once they get up in age and start having heart problems (who would've guessed, eh?). Ever think that if he is supposed to be taking prescription drugs, that maybe, just maybe, they're not exactly his top priority while trying to save himself from the Belize government? What if the *lack* of drugs combined with stress and old age are doing him in? There are too many factors that could be involved, do us all a favor and shut the fuck up about recreational drugs.
McAfee is a well known user of MPDV. He was a frequent poster on bluelight.ru, a recreational drug forum.
This isn't out of left field. He used the shit out of MPDV.
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Methylenedioxypyrovalerone. MDPV.
Please... you're showing exactly how much you know about chemistry.
You drug-addict chemist types are fucking touchy about typos aren't you?
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[*] pun intended
Re:Withdrawals (Score:5, Funny)
you druggies are all the same
You stereotypers are all the same.
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Yo momma's such a crack ho, she turned coke into a verb!
What He Really Said (Score:5, Funny)
Withdraw (Score:4, Insightful)
so what? (Score:1)
why is everyone obsessed with this guy?
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Now that the elections are over, nothing else to talk about.
Salty Prisoner (Score:5, Funny)
Who suffered from heart disease
When offered revivial
He'd cry for survival
"Not in front of the press, please!"
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There once was a guy named McAfee
Whose drug of choice was not coffee
He collapsed in the jail
But his heart did not fail
Just let him snort some coke off the ass of Tawnee Taffy
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Dude, quit plagarizing the Vogons!!!
Re:Salty Prisoner (Score:4, Funny)
There once was a man named Hans Reiser
Who was a bit of a creepy old miser
He got sick of his wife
And ended her life
So we switched to ext4 all the wiser.
Think of this... (Score:2)
McAfee gets uninstalled prior to shipping and we never have to see the trial.
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There once was a man from Belize
Who suffered a weird heart disease
When offered revivial
He'd cry for survival
"Not in front of the press, oh no please!"
It's not that difficult, you'd done all the hard work.
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Congratulation! You win the idiot-promoting-further-idiocy of the month award!
FFS, this strange aversion to doing things correctly has got to stop.
I don't think it was a heart attack (Score:5, Funny)
I'm guessing it was a virus.
Re:I don't think it was a heart attack (Score:4, Funny)
I'm guessing it was a virus.
But weren't his signatures up to date? Oh, perhaps his license ran out?
Trialware ? (Score:2)
Maybe, he forgot to pay his trial?
Re:I don't think it was a heart attack (Score:5, Funny)
It wasn't the virus making him collapse, it was his immune system locking up all of his bodily resources.
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Yeah, we call that "withdrawl" (Score:4, Insightful)
I imagine he's got quite a bit to come down from too.
I hate to sound cliche... (Score:1)
but the more McAfee pulls these stunts the more he looks guilty in my eyes.
I will give him credit for making every effort to remain out of jail and out out of Belize for that matter.
It seems clear that 1 or more of 3 possibilities are the truth.
1. He killed his neighbor in retaliation for his dogs being poisoned.
2. He is innocent and being persecuted by froces within the Belize government and police department.
3. He is having or has had a psychotic episode.
I am mostly convinced that #3 is true. I wonder
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4. We are infact collectively having the pschotc episode.
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The guy is a bath salts addict. It's likely any combination of the three, or possibly all ofhtem.
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But 1 and 3 could be true, or 2 and 3. So, "one or more" can be fulfilled with those subsets.
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Logic fail. 1 and 2 are mutually exclusive so they can't both be true.
True, but you didn't read closely.
It seems clear that 1 or more of 3 possibilities are the truth.
Hence not all three possibilities have to be true. Just one or two will do.
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Good catch.
For it to make sense he should have said "I wonder which of the others is also true."
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So rephrase #2 and add #0:
It seems clear that 1 or more of 4 possibilities are the truth.
0. He is innocent.
1. He killed his neighbor, possibly in retaliation for his dogs being poisoned.
2. He is being persecuted by forces within the Belize government and police department.
3. He is having or has had a psychotic episode.
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Thanks for the edit.
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Logic fail. 1 and 2 are mutually exclusive so they can't both be true.
They could both be partially true. Maybe he killed his neighbor and is being persecuted by froces within the Belize government and police department. :)
The McAfee headlines just keep coming! (Score:1)
Next headline: "John JcAfee Escapes from Guatemala Hospital".
Re:The McAfee headlines just keep coming! (Score:5, Funny)
Followed by "John McAfee Leaps Off 100 Foot Waterfall; Mentions Trying to Find One-armed Man".
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Well, as long as he isn't crapping on everything.
http://thedarkspark.blogspot.com/2008/11/poo-man-escapee.html [blogspot.com]
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No kidding
"John McAfee wins 2016 presidential election, Hillary Clinton said to be distraught and very high."
"John McAfee wins Nobel Peace and Chemistry Prizes, reads James Joyce's Ulysses backwards while eating cocaine cookies at acceptance speech"
Now... (Score:1)
Where are all the conspiracy theorists today?
Re:Now... (Score:5, Funny)
You see, Kaspersky and McAfee have been the two top contenders for the anti-virus throne for nearly a decade now - big money has been made by both sides. What few people know is that McAfee and Kaspersky have been working together for a long time on manufacturing crippling viruses, dividing up clients evenly, infiltrating large organisations with 'update backdoors' - and this isn't even all the illegal activities they've been involved in.
But in September of last year, McAfee stabbed their long-time cohorts in the back by making a move with Intel that manouvred McAfee into a market position that Kaspersky could no longer take - Ultrabooks. Anti-theft software you say? No, exclusive backdoors on a technology that they knew every manager across western society would procure. And McAfee had done this without Kaspersky. Why was this so important to Kaspersky? Because their greatest source of income/raison d'être was on-selling high-level root access to managerial and corporate systems across western society to the FSB (whom they work very closely with).
Now what has this got to do with McAfee the man and his purported murder of his next door neighbour? Let me tell you. The company McAfee's greatest mistake was not rebranding when the founder moved on. McAfee's brand is built on the name of the man himself. Turn the man into public enemy #1 and a crazy schizophreniac and you have destroyed the company's reputation.
This leads us back to the beginning: the FSB ordered and carried out the assasination of an innocent human to bring down a corporate empire so that McAfee would be forever distanced from the security industry and so that they would lose their foothold on the next big corporate purchase - ultrabooks. Kaspersky (FSB) badly wants their backdoors in the corporate west.
You've heard it here first.
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I've never actually wished I had mod points before.
Bravo.
par for course for mcafree at times it just crashe (Score:3)
par for course for mcafree at times it just crashes and then you need to reboot the full system to get back to work.
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And sometimes it refuses to work in front of certain people.
What is the fascination with this case? (Score:3)
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It's a grass-roots build-up for the Slashvertisement announcing his new product in 2013.
I shit you not.
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Anyone making an extensive run from the law and leaving a trail will make the news, e.g. the "barefoot bandit" who was a nobody.
If I'd been handling the gurney when he "woke up" just in time to say "not in front of the press", I'd have turned him around and sent him back to his cell.
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Crazy people doing crazy things make the news especially if that crazy person is rich and is accused of killing someone.
Now the question as to why is it on Slashdot?
Many years ago this person founded a software company, cashed out, and moved to Latin America to do lots and lots and lots of drugs. So yea, there really isn't a reason it should be Slashdot since this person has not been relevant in the Nerd fields for a very long time.
"Yess! I am invincible!!" (Score:2)
I understand this guy founded a software company, but he's not exactly been a public figure until now. What's with all the fascination over this investigation?
It echoes strangely the Hans Reiser case.
In some ways it echoes every high-profile real-life and fictional encounter of the geek and the criminal law. The ego the size of the planet. There are the extra added attractions of the remote luxurious villainous Lair and the Bond women. The fulfillment of every adolescent sexual fantasy.
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I understand this guy founded a software company, but he's not exactly been a public figure until now. What's with all the fascination over this investigation?
He's someone who has made a lot of money from starting and then selling his own technology company, and then has gone to live somewhere where he can do drugs, creepily stalk women and play with guns, which is every libertarian slashdotter's dream.
$5 says he pulls the "Asperger's Syndrome" defense (Score:1)
to avoid extradition back to Belize...after having flown his private jet there in the first place...
Otherwise known as the "Wanker Defense"
20 year old girlfriend (Score:2, Interesting)
USA Today said he was accompanied by his 20 year old girlfriend to the hospital. Perhaps the 2 minor heart attacks were after a conjugal visit?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/12/05/guatemalan-police-arrest-mcafee/1749997/ [usatoday.com]
And Then There Were One (Score:2)
USA Today said he was accompanied by his 20 year old girlfriend to the hospital. Perhaps the 2 minor heart attacks were after a conjugal visit?
He had seven live-in "companions" that age in Belize.
The day before, I met "Tiffany" here. She claimed to be one of McAfee's girlfriends, one of seven. They all live together, sharing McAfee's houses and fantasies. He's 67. Tiffany says she's 23 and they have been lovers for three years. The girl beside her gives no name and only says she's 19.
A bizarre visit to John McAfee's pleasure palace in Belize [cnn.com]
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Yes, I know I stole if off Mrs Merton.
The new tech tabloid (Score:2)
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Hourly updates on McAfee seem superfluous.
My school's free AV software was Sophos, and it would check for updates every 10 minutes.
Quick, someone secure the movie rights (Score:2)
Although most non-tech people would be like who the hell is this guy.
Now this is what I call entertainment. (Score:5, Interesting)
You gotta admit, this is possibly the most exciting tech-related drama of all time. Hans Reiser's trial pales in comparison.
Let's see, you've got:
* eccentric millionaire going off the grid to do obscure 'antibiotics' research in the jungles of Belize flanked by various hot young babes
* a compound with military-grade security
* allegations of corrupt local officials with commando units demanding bribes
* embedded American journalists following the saga
* a murder with alternate allegations of settling a vendetta versus a framing job
* millionaire hiding in dirt to avoid authorities
* extreme measures to hide location, including numerous disguises and a decoy with a North Korean passport
* arrest and detection in yet another third-world country
* fake heart attacks to escape detention
Grab some popcorn, the second act hasn't even begun yet...
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Oh yeah, forgot about the allegations of experimental drug use on part of said millionaire.
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Oh yeah, forgot about the allegations of experimental drug use on part of said millionaire.
I don't think they're allegations so much as paranoid boasts by the man himself.
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You missed the part where his dogs were poisoned, buried, exhumed, and finally decapitated.
You just can't make this stuff up.
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Let's see, you've got: * eccentric millionaire going off the grid to do obscure 'antibiotics' research in the jungles of Belize flanked by various hot young babes
* a compound with military-grade security
* allegations of corrupt local officials with commando units demanding bribes
* embedded American journalists following the saga
* a murder with alternate allegations of settling a vendetta versus a framing job
* millionaire hiding in dirt to avoid authorities
* extreme measures to hide location, including numerous disguises and a decoy with a North Korean passport
* arrest and detection in yet another third-world country
* fake heart attacks to escape detention
Sounds like the plot of a Crysis/Duke Nukem hybrid game.
What's odd is being deported to Belize... (Score:2)
Does no-one else find it odd he's being deported to Belize? He's a U.S. citizen, he should be deported here. There is no extradition treaty between the two countries. Everyone on Slashdot in the story where he was captured assumed he would be exported to the U.S...
I'm not sure he's all there mentally but I am sure he's being screwed over by Belize and will be killed if he gets back there. Or possibly now and they'll just frame it as a heart attack.
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Does no-one else find it odd he's being deported to Belize? He's a U.S. citizen, he should be deported here. There is no extradition treaty between the two countries. Everyone on Slashdot in the story where he was captured assumed he would be exported to the U.S...
I'm not sure he's all there mentally but I am sure he's being screwed over by Belize and will be killed if he gets back there. Or possibly now and they'll just frame it as a heart attack.
Where did he commit the alleged crime? If I am accused of murder in France, and am on the lam in England should I get deported to my country of origin (let's say for example it's the USA)? No, I should get extradited to France where I (await in prison) and stand trial.
As I stated, no extradition treaty (Score:2)
Where did he commit the alleged crime?
He could have killed 400 people out in the open in Belize and it would not matter. Belize and Guatemala do not have an arrangement to extradite criminals.
The thing that matters, then thing he was arrested for, is entering the country illegally. So why would he be deported to any country except for the one he has a passport for? If I enter Germany illegally should they send me to the Netherlands?
To which the guards replied: (Score:5, Funny)
"It looks like your heart is at risk. You have not activated your emergency care subscription. Please stay protected by activating your subscription now."
US spookesman says (Score:2)
>> "due to privacy considerations," the embassy would "have no comment on the specifics of this situation," but that, "U.S. citizens are subject to the laws of the countries in which they are traveling or residing, and must work within the host countries' legal framework."
Unlike if you piss of the US corporations which will drag you from your country to the US to face the laws for breaking the US laws on your own countries soil.
The only question (Score:2)
Hospital Sends McAfee Back Into Custody (Score:2)
ABC News is reporting that a Guatemala City hospital found no reason to keep McAfee overnight.
Call it an anxiety attack, if you like.
You might want to compare and contrast these two photographs :
[This photo of McAfee and Vice editor-in-chief Rocco Castoro] included meta-data revealing their precise location, which a reader quickly pinpointed as ''next to the pool at Nana Juana Hotel Marina and Yacht Club'' in Guatemala. McAfee was soon arrested. Oops.
McAfee, Vice, and the limits of hipster journalism [macleans.ca]
John McAfee Returned to Guatemala Detention Center After Hospitalization [go.com] [Guatemala's National Police/AP Photo]
The impression I have is of a man who was flying high uo in the clouds only to come crashing down hard --- and not for the first time.
Why is this person... (Score:2)
Standard UK MP plan (Score:2)
Ah, the faked heart attack, longtime fallback plan of British MP's when anyone get's close to hauling them before a court. Depressingly it works every fscking time here.
Nice to see it didn't work this time ;)
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Re:Too bad it's not Linux Torvalds. (Score:5, Funny)
I read at -1 because I happen to be a troll aficionado, for your information. Occasionally there are some really great ones, OP wasn't one of them.
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I read at -1 because I happen to be a troll aficionado, for your information. Occasionally there are some really great ones, OP wasn't one of them.
He wasn't trolling, that was blasphemy
If it wasn't for the trolls I don't think slashdot would be half as much fun. Totally off-topic, but what happened to the MyCleanPC trolls? They were fucking hilarious.
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LIES!
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