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McAfee Was Not Captured 150

Posted by samzenpus
from the man-on-the-run dept.
netbuzz writes "As rumors and news reports of John McAfee's alleged capture circulated widely yesterday – fueled by McAfee's own blog and blogging cohorts – police and other authorities in Belize denied that they had the man in custody and, well, they should have been believed. McAfee surfaced earlier this morning and had this to say in a blog post: 'We are not in Belize, but not quite out of the woods yet.' He also painted a picture of his 'escape' that could have been taken from a bad spy novel."
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McAfee Was Not Captured

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  • by ColdWetDog (752185) on Monday December 03, 2012 @11:38AM (#42170031) Homepage

    Another false positive.

  • by Synerg1y (2169962) on Monday December 03, 2012 @11:44AM (#42170117)
    They sure are pursuing him hard for a simple questioning, made ever so hilarious by him posting updates on his blog. I can't wait to hear what "really" happened.

    Then again chances are he really did shoot him over the dogs business, people have killed people for a lot less, and with Mcafee's rich white man ego in a country not known for it's 1st worldness... I can see him doing it.
    • I'm not sure his blog is doing him many favours at the moment, either. For most people, "batshit insane paranoia" is not quite as closely connected "innocent" as he seems to think.

      • by Tapewolf (1639955)

        I'm not sure his blog is doing him many favours at the moment, either. For most people, "batshit insane paranoia" is not quite as closely connected "innocent" as he seems to think.

        "How long can the press maintain the “Drug crazed madman” perspective? I think it will end with Vice Magazine’s story. They have seen, and heard everything."

        ...I have to admit, reading that blog entry, 'drug-crazed madman' was pretty much the first thing that sprang to mind.

        http://www.whoismcafee.com/i-am-safe/ [whoismcafee.com]

    • Well I do not think that law enforcement like to get ahead of themselves.
      A judge and jury are for proving guilt.

      • Re:The chase (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Synerg1y (2169962) on Monday December 03, 2012 @12:29PM (#42170653)
        Now now, you've got to remember this is Belize, not the states, if somebody high up enough says your guilty, the facts don't matter. My thought however is that if he was truly innocent, he has international press coverage, so they can't just put a black bag over his head, I guess they could plant evidence and fabricate details, but still if he was "innocent" the coverage should provide him the lifeline he needs to acquit himself over there.

        If it was me... I'd just leave & go live somewhere else, it's not like he can't afford another mansion / drug lab or anything. He might fit in better in E. Europe anyways.
        • [...]if he was truly innocent, he has international press coverage, so they can't just put a black bag over his head, I guess they could plant evidence and fabricate details, but still if he was "innocent" the coverage should provide him the lifeline he needs to acquit himself over there.

          Or, of course, they could just disappear him for good. The public would just think he went "deep underground", and just forget about him.

        • Re:The chase (Score:4, Insightful)

          by pdabbadabba (720526) on Monday December 03, 2012 @01:08PM (#42171069) Homepage

          Now now, you've got to remember this is Belize, not the states, if somebody high up enough says your guilty, the facts don't matter.

          I can't help but ask: when you wrote this, did you actually know anything about Belize to support your sweeping (and somewhat offensive, if it's just based on stereotypes) conclusion?

          • by Synerg1y (2169962)
            So... I'm sure there's a lot to know about Belize, and I may or may not know a few things, so rather than ask such a generic "sweeping" question, why don't you get to your point?

            If you're going to say they have a just and righteous democracy over then, then LOL, the entirety of CA is one giant drug trafficking route into the states.
            • by cusco (717999)
              Wow, racist AND stupid. That's a pretty good combo you've got going there.
              • by qwe4rty (2599703)
                Perhaps I'm being overly pedantic, but how is what he said racist? It's a comment about government in a particular country, I fail to see how racism comes into it. Apologies for zeroing in on this, but I really dislike the "racism" card as it is thrown around in arguments these days.
                • by Synerg1y (2169962)
                  OP is a dumbass who puts what may very well be his real name on his posts. Moving on.
                • by cusco (717999)
                  Well, when the poster refers to "the entirety of Central America" it doesn't take much imagination to know that he's not referring to the enclaves of rich white people.
                  • by jrumney (197329)

                    Well, when the poster refers to "the entirety of Central America"

                    And here I was thinking he was just so bad at geography he thought Belize was a province of Canada.

              • by tehcyder (746570)

                Wow, racist AND stupid. That's a pretty good combo you've got going there.

                All racism is stupid, by definition, as it is based on an utterly trivial irrelevance (skin colour) to justify treating other human beings as somehow belonging to another species.

        • by Hatta (162192)

          Now now, you've got to remember this is Belize, not the states, if somebody high up enough says your guilty, the facts don't matter.

          Actually, it's that way in the states too. Whether it's Guantanamo bay, drone strikes, or a marine corps brig, innocent until proven guilty went out the window a long time ago. Other concepts, such as proportional justice are similarly missing from the modern United States.

        • You wrote & I quote, " this is Belize, not the states, if somebody high up enough says your guilty, the facts don't matter".
          And I scream in response, ARE YOU KIDDING!
          Did you forget the NDAA, the Patriot Act, secret grand juries, Guantanamo Bay, targeted assassinations, suspended Habeas Corpus, etc?

        • The US is just as corrupt as those so-called third-world countries. I've had some rather unpleasant experiences with a couple of blatantly corrupt court commissioners at the Los Angeles Superior Court, a cesspool of corruption and malpractice. The shit that goes on at the LASC would make Saddam Hussein blush. I swear.

    • by ceoyoyo (59147)

      When your neighbour dies, you're wanted for questioning and you run, trying to skip the country, most police forces will pursue you pretty hard.

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by Anonymous Coward

        When your neighbour dies, you're wanted for questioning and you run, trying to skip the country, most police forces will pursue you pretty hard.

        Also doesn't help when you're known about the community as a paranoid who has a bunch of guns and known ex-criminals for bodyguards.

    • by jrumney (197329)
      At the start, his story about harassment by corrupt third world government officials was quite plausible. But now, seeing his tales of decoys with false North Korean passports, I'm more inclined to believe that he really killed his neighbor.
  • Link to actual blog (Score:5, Informative)

    by magic maverick (2615475) on Monday December 03, 2012 @11:45AM (#42170133) Homepage Journal

    What a great article. No indication of what the actual blog address is except in an image.

    The fella's website is http://www.whoismcafee.com/ [whoismcafee.com]

    Here we can find http://www.whoismcafee.com/i-am-safe/ [whoismcafee.com]

    My “double”, carrying on a North Korean passport under my name, was in fact detained in Mexico for pre-planned misbehavior, but due to indifference on the part of authorities was evicted from the jail and was unable to serve his intended purpose in our exit plan. He is now safely out of Mexico.

    Frankly, I don't know why anyone would link to Network World when they don't link to their sources.

    Anyway I just wanted to say that. I don't actually care about the story.

    • by TheCarp (96830) <sjc@nospAm.carpanet.net> on Monday December 03, 2012 @11:52AM (#42170223) Homepage

      > Anyway I just wanted to say that. I don't actually care about the story.

      Care about? No..... me neither, but, it sure is amusing to watch it unfold.

      I particularly like this last bit about the Koran double not being able to stay in jail due to Mexican indifference. That could be a story in and of itself. I want to hear the Koran "double"s story, I bet it is at least fun.

      I mean can you imagine.... being in Mexico with the intention of going to jail, and then finding out you ca't do anything that they care enough about to actually keep you? ROTFL what did he do? Kill someone? :)

    • Aaaannndddd actually they do link to the blog. They may have changed it, or I may have missed it. Either way, you can mod my post back down again now.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    This sounds like a job for Eugene "bring 'em back alive (or otherwise)" Kaspersky.

  • Bond or clowns (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    I suspect he has the Bond theme in his head while we all have March of the Clowns in ours.
    • Oh great! Now I can't get those scenes from Octopussy out of my head. You know the opening when they chase the clown though the woods that has the Fabergé egg. Or the end when Bond, dressed as a clown, tries to convince a general that there is a nuclear bomb in the "cannon."

    • by gmhowell (26755)

      I suspect he has the Bond theme in his head while we all have March of the Clowns in ours.

      I've been thinking Yakety Sax.

  • He better hope the border guards don't update their anti-virus CEO catching software.
    • He's got nothing to worry about there. The trial version that comes pre-installed on every new border checkpoint would have expired years ago, and nobody ever pays for the full subscription.

  • by vlm (69642) on Monday December 03, 2012 @12:08PM (#42170399)

    He moved to a corrupt 3rd world banana republic with no rule of law, and failed to pay a bribe a couple months ago so they roughed him up, shot his dog for fun, trashed his place, what did he expect if he didn't pay his bribe in a country that's corrupt? So that's the background.

    So he still doesn't pay up, and next petty theft gone bad where there's a body, of course he's gonna be suspect numero uno as punishment for not paying up. His only hope of avoiding that was someone else getting higher on the list. Duh! I'm sure as soon as he pays up, they'll be a sudden confession from whoever actually did it, or it'll turn out they don't need him for questioning after all, etc etc, and he'll be all good until the next guy wants a bribe that he wont pay.

    Its kind of like moving to Canada even though you don't like shoveling snow and then not shoveling snow just for the principle of it as if that will make the problem go away... dude just leave or pay up, the people in charge aren't going to give any other options.

    You know the deal where the Mexican policeman pulls you over for made up BS until you slip him some cash? Same deal just a little bigger scale. The solution is not to drive in Mexico. Worked pretty well for me when I visited (great scuba diving BTW and liked the food too)

    I don't understand why rich tech guy doesn't:
    1) already know these rules of the road
    2) just buy a boat like all other rich tech guys to sail away from the corruption

    • by Beardo the Bearded (321478) on Monday December 03, 2012 @12:22PM (#42170573)

      You know the deal where the Mexican policeman pulls you over for made up BS until you slip him some cash? Same deal just a little bigger scale. The solution is not to drive in Mexico. Worked pretty well for me when I visited (great scuba diving BTW and liked the food too)

      The correct answer is "Oh, sorry, simple mistake. Can I just pay the fine right now? I don't need a receipt."

    • by tysonedwards (969693) on Monday December 03, 2012 @12:28PM (#42170651)
      2) just buy a boat like all other rich tech guys to sail away from the corruption

      Considering all his time as an executive within the software industry, he is probably fearful of piracy.
    • I disagree with the implication that the solution to rampant corruption is to pay up or go somewhere else. I don't know if this guy was taking a stand against a corrupt government on principle or was too stupid to take the easy way out, but if this is a result of corruption and not McAfee actually murdering someone, then I hope he succeeds, and I hope heads roll because of it. Real heads, of the corrupt officials, actually rolling.

      I'm guessing though he actually was involved in something shady himself,
      • by Kergan (780543)

        I disagree with the implication that the solution to rampant corruption is to pay up or go somewhere else.

        Actually, that implication is precisely right, bar the occasional official who wants your ass in addition to the money for not paying up immediately -- so as to make an example for those who might do the same.

        Just across the Rio Grande, there are several countries where corruption is rampant. Open a restaurant in any of them and see for yourself if you don't take my word for it: If you don't pay up to whoever asks you to when you start to see any level of success (which could be the police, the taxman, the

        • Oh, I agree, it's a suicide mission in many countries if you stand on principle, and unlikely to change anything in reality. Just sounded like Vlm was saying McAfee was stupid for refusing the bribe. I would amend it to "stupid AND/OR noble."
      • by TheCarp (96830)

        You are, of course, correct that "pay up or go somewhere else" is not "the solution to rampant corruption". It is not.

        That said, when confronted with a corrupt official, you probably have problems much bigger and more personally relevant to your life than "the solution to rampant corruption", and it is quite possible that the aims of ending corruption overall, and coming out of the situation unharmed are at odds with eachother.

        Someone once pointed out, I forget what country/city/conflict it was but the poin

    • by evilviper (135110) on Monday December 03, 2012 @01:39PM (#42171437) Journal

      He moved to a corrupt 3rd world banana republic with no rule of law, and failed to pay a bribe a couple months ago

      Believe it or not, people do actually commit crimes in corrupt, 3rd world countries, too... It's not always a frame-up. Sure, it could be... or he could be just as guilty as Hans Reiser, and just getting the benefit of every geek's doubt.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      You know the deal where the Mexican policeman pulls you over for made up BS until you slip him some cash?

      Heh... I am Dutch, and I have been living in Mexico for close to 9 years now. Maybe the state of Veracruz is different, or maybe a lot of people who talk about slipping someone money just repeat what they've seen in a bad movie or heard from a friend of a friend. So far, I've only twice seen someone having to slip (or "slip") money to a police officer. The first time was in Chiapas, close to the border w

      • by jrumney (197329)

        On another occasion a taxi driver (I don't have a license to drive a car, never bothered to get one) was stopped and had to pay a fine. On that case I was quite sure it was a fine, even though the taxi driver made it sound like corruption.

        If he paid on the spot, it was corruption. Getting a fine means you get a ticket which you pay at a police station sometime later or go to court over. If you give money directly to the cop who stopped you, then its going into his pocket. Usually by giving a bribe direc

    • He moved to a corrupt 3rd world banana republic with no rule of law, and failed to pay a bribe a couple months ago so they roughed him up, shot his dog for fun, trashed his place, what did he expect if he didn't pay his bribe in a country that's corrupt? So that's the background.

      --- or are you just taking McAfee's self-serving blogs as gospel truth?

      A bizarre visit to John McAfee's pleasure palace in Belize [cnn.com]

    • by nurb432 (527695)

      I don't understand why rich tech guy doesn't:
      1) already know these rules of the road
      2) just buy a boat like all other rich tech guys to sail away from the corruption

      Well, he has rotted part of his brain on his home made drugs remember..

  • Imagine "The Punisher" if all he did all day was talk to imaginary people, smoke meth, and collect jars of his own urine.

    On the upside, maybe this sad state of affairs will finally get companies to stop treating McAfee's crapware as the be-all-end-all of computer security in the workplace (at the last place I worked, it was their ENTIRE security plan--just put McAfee on all the computers and that will handle all security issues).

    • Imagine "The Punisher" if all he did all day was talk to imaginary people, smoke meth, and collect jars of his own urine.

      If you're growing weed outside, saving your pee, letting it "age" a bit and then spreading it around keeps the deer and other weed-eating critters away from the plants.

      On the upside, maybe this sad state of affairs will finally get companies to stop treating McAfee's crapware as the be-all-end-all of computer security in the workplace (at the last place I worked, it was their ENTIRE security plan--just put McAfee on all the computers and that will handle all security issues).

      It's been quite a few years since McAfee sold his company, it's a good possibility that what we know now as McAfee Crapwear is not the same as the Original McAfee Crapwear...

      • Only if your a carnivore. Herbivore pee doesn't scare anything.

        • by drinkypoo (153816)

          Only if your a carnivore. Herbivore pee doesn't scare anything.

          I eat a lot of meat and the deer eat the grass right where I pee. Deer aren't that smart. Might work on elk though.

          • Fearless suburban deer?

            • by drinkypoo (153816)

              Fearless suburban deer?

              No, I live in Lake County, CA... smack in the middle of what is either Zone A or Zone B depending on the year.

              • Clear lake? Sympathies.

                Still enough people and plantings to teach the deer to ignore human scent (except during hunting season). Rural deer won't let you get close enough to see what they were eating.

  • McAfee Timeline (Score:4, Informative)

    by sparkydevil (261897) on Monday December 03, 2012 @12:26PM (#42170623)

    I made this handy timeline so you can follow events: http://wecheck.org/wiki/John_McAfee

  • I honestly don't know if McAfee is guilty or being framed, but I'm sure many of the 1%ers in the US, England, and France are rethinking their plans to escape proposed increased tax rates (oh, the horror!) for tropical climes where they can live like the kings they think themselves to be. Until the local authorities show up, steenking badges or no.

    So swallow your pride and greed and pay your fair share so civilized society AND THE RULE OF LAW shall not perish from the earth.
  • by kawabago (551139) on Monday December 03, 2012 @01:53PM (#42171625)
    Those drugs might make him feel good but they aren't making his life better!
  • Because those are the only ones where he'll be marginally safe.

    I wish they'd catch this guy so he'd shut the hell up. He's not Jason Bourne or James Bond, he's just another rich eccentric, and an attention whore.The world doesn't need more of either of those.

    • I'm betting it's a pretty small list, at least in the region, given that Belize is a Commonwealth nation and also a member of CARICOM.

  • This guy is completely delusional. OK, suppose he's actually out of Belize. Now what? At some point, he'll surface, and Belize will issue an international arrest warrant via INTERPOL, and whatever country he's in will likely pick him up and begin the extradition process. What's he going to argue in response? That the police there are out to get him? Based on what? And it certainly won't help his case that, instead of hiring a lawyer, he chose to run, and, not only that, he started a blog chronicling

  • The blog in question [whoismcafee.com] is titled: "Who is McAfee?" Wouldn't "Where in the World Is John McAfee?" be a more appropriate title? *rimshot*

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