John McAfee Accused of Murder, Wanted By Belize Police 353
New submitter thn writes "John McAfee, who started the antivirus software giant named after him, has been accused of murder in Belize and is wanted. McAfee had taken to 'posting on a drug-focused Russian message board...about his attempts to purify the psychoactive compounds colloquially known as "bath salts,"' Gizmodo wrote. The scariest aspect of this story may be the fact that an entire lab was constructed for John McAfee's research purposes. Because of his efforts to extract chemicals from natural chemical plans McAfee was able to justify his experiments in a country that is largely unregulated."
When will they make a movie about this? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:When will they make a movie about this? (Score:5, Interesting)
McAfee? I don't want to watch a movie about some some guy that is obsessed with taking drugs rectally.
Re:When will they make a movie about this? (Score:5, Insightful)
With as many obscenely rich people as there are, why don't we hear more about this type of thing? Is the average hundred millionaire really boring, or are they just better at keeping secrets? If you have a hundred million, why wouldn't you build a sex dungeon?
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Re:When will they make a movie about this? (Score:5, Funny)
Your basement with a computer full of pr0n does not count as a sex dungeon...
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it does according to the computer
Re:When will they make a movie about this? (Score:5, Funny)
I want a movie about Henry Nicholas of Broadcom.
I'm sorry, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Nicholas [wikipedia.org] does not confirm any of that, and therefore I can only conclude that your a a troll or a rube.
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Here's US v. Nicholas [leagle.com] in which (under oath) he admits to drug use. So there's part of it verified. Find the divorce case which was they fought to keep sealed (but the L.A. times fought for) and I'm sure you'll find information about his infidelity with prostitutes. With some quick googling I was only able to find his attempts to keep it sealed.
Did Vanity Fair possibly exaggerate or sensationalize? Sure, but nothing in there is all that
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why stop there?
why not a movie with mcafee, nicholas, and hans reiser?
written by quentin tarantino ideally
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They roam the continent looking for their anarchist utopia
In an anarchist utopia, you wouldn't have obscenely rich people who could build their own little kingdom.
The word you're looking for is "libertarian".
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I can't wait for the movie to come out!
I hope John's 17 year old belizian girlfriend (!!!) will be given a prominent role in the movie
and that the movie will be set in a sunny, warm, moist climate
I could do a pretty decent job of playing John, come to think of it
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Corporate Name change expected. Film at 11.
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Corporate Name change expected. Film at 11.
Intel bought them a while ago.
Re:When will they make a movie about this? (Score:5, Informative)
It's more efficient than oral, because it bypasses the first pass metabolism [wikipedia.org] ; a large fraction of many drugs are metabolised by the liver on the first pass of the substance through the bloodstream out of the intestine, whereas the venous plexuses of the anus go straight into the main blood system.
You can achieve the same effect with a lower dose and fewer toxic effects. Some nations don't have the hangups about their arseholes that we do in the English speaking nations and consider suppositories a normal form of medication.
Re:When will they make a movie about this? (Score:5, Informative)
then you should be responsible and warn people that people die from coffee enemas and alcohol enemas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_enema#Effects_and_dangers [wikipedia.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_enema#Effects_and_dangers [wikipedia.org]
i am not being a prude, you have a right to do anything you want with your body. i am saying it is your responsibility when communicating activities of heightened danger to indicate the heightened danger
there are many drugs and delivery methods where there is a large tolerance to wildly swinging dosages and rates. then there are many other drugs and delivery methods where slight alterations in dosage and rates means the difference between a good time and death. meaning no one should engage in these efforts casually. but unfortunately, since recreation and escaping responsibility is often the motivation, people die with dangerous dosages and delivery methods
education and care is the proper antidote to bad experience with drugs. i didn't say prudery. but you can reduce the power of prudery in society by being careful when you communicate, and educating people as to dangers and harsh downsides. it doesn't make you a killjoy. death is a killjoy
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you've got yourself an uphill battle there. anal administration isn't the last pillar to fall before all recreational drug use is suddenly socially and legally accepted...
It's about time (Score:5, Funny)
He already murdered my computer with his insanely slow Security Suite.
Maybe he'll share a prison cell with Hans Reiser (Score:5, Funny)
ReiserFS - For when you need to partition your wife.
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He really did mean literally. Obviously the hard drive is thrashing constantly causing the machine to vibrate and move slowly across his desk.
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He already murdered my computer with his insanely slow Security Suite.
Yes and the millions of other victims are also urged to come forward with their stories.
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Hey, it's just working as designed: not to let malware any chance to get scheduled for CPU and I/O.
Re:It's about time (Score:5, Funny)
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So slow, that you could hardly see them crawl.
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Not very fast, even if the hard drive is thrashing really, really hard.
UPDATE (Score:5, Informative)
FTA: Update 1:37 p.m. PT To include additional information from CBS that indicates McAfee is not wanted for the killing of Gregory Faull as Gizmodo previously reported but is only wanted for questioning at this time.
Re:UPDATE (Score:5, Insightful)
No No you got it wrong. News isn't about fact, it is about making people guilty in the eyes of society so they can be shunned from society, because our normal court system is designed to try to make sure innocent people go free.
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An relevant update for McAfee taking too long? Well, I never.
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And that's the thread, folks!
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Forget the murder... McAfee is taking drugs via his butt? What... the... hell?
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What's so "what the hell" about that? Suppositories are a real thing and they exist for a reason.
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We're not talking about Preparation H here.
Just so we are clear on things.....
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I'm just trying to do a bong hit anally and no one seems to mind that I'm bogarting.
I had chili for lunch tho', so I suspect the others are fearing the blue dart....
cheers,
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Eh, people do all sorts of crazy and/or disgusting things under that umbrella. Why not throw suppositories in there too?
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Recreational suppositories... it is a whole different level of drug addiction. It's similar to my feelings regarding IV drug abuse.
Did you read TFA? His instructions are to "lick your finger", dip your finger in the powder, and then ram it home. So ignoring the lack of dose control and pure nastiness here... drug abusers aren't exactly known for hygiene. I'm kind of hoping he still retains enough sense to wash his finger between doses!
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For fuck's sake... the words "Recreational" and "suppositories" should not be used in the same sentence... it just shouldn't.
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Strong coffee enemas are also popular among some crazy people.
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I wonder if Le Petomane [wikipedia.org] ever tried smoking a joint (through one of those lengthy cigarette holders of course) or a bong that way?
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Well if he is wanted for questioning with regard to the murder, and is potentially a suspect. Well that is the same thing.
No one is saying he has been proved guilty, but it sounds like he is a suspect or person of interest.
Gizmodo was the primary source? (Score:5, Insightful)
A Gawker Networks site got something wrong?
In a sensationalist fashion?
SHOCKING.
Seriously, why does everyone still put up with those fucktards? Their level of incompetence has crossed from believable to they-must-be-doing-it-on-purpose-for-page-hits.
Re:UPDATE (Score:5, Funny)
FTA: Update 1:37 p.m. PT To include additional information from CBS that indicates McAfee is not wanted for the killing of Gregory Faull as Gizmodo previously reported but is only wanted for questioning at this time.
You have to cut Gizmodo some slack here - they got their information from a phone they found in a bar.
history repeating itself? (Score:5, Funny)
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I was gonna say, he can share a cell with Hans and they can get to work on a cracking new product.
Re:history repeating itself? (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe soon we can build an entire operating system using only software written by convicted felons.
Oblig (Score:5, Funny)
Looks like this story has the potential to go....
*sunglasses*
Viral.
Yeeeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh!
What the Heck. (Score:3, Funny)
Running a rather boring software company to description like some sort of supervillain, thats quite a transition.
Dear god let his compound contain an active volcano lair.
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Running a rather boring software company to description like some sort of supervillain, thats quite a transition.
Dear god let his compound contain an active volcano lair.
With a shark pool. With...
Ah, you know the rest!
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Do you realize how much insurance costs for an active volcano lair! Besides you are open to an OSHA suite from your minions.
Moon base that is where it is at.
Links to the previous McAfee story ... (Score:3)
That being said... (Score:5, Interesting)
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What's so special about that? I'm more curious as to WTF is with all those shotguns. Especially the one with the rifle scope (slugs or sabot then?)
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Not sure what he used them for, but in places where rifles are not allowed for deer hunting scoped slug guns are pretty popular. Also pretty popular for turkey guns, since a very tight choke is used.
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@100 yards a 12 guage slug has dropped about 10 inches.
There is no reason to ever put a scope on a shotgun. Unless you think it looks cool. Iron sights work fine to 100 yards. You aren't hitting anything past 100 yards with a shotgun anyhow.
I thnik that the correct meme is (Score:2)
This is just bizarre. (Score:2)
Can anyone parse the final sentence? (Score:3)
Because of his efforts to extract chemicals from natural chemical plans McAfee was able to justify his experiments in a country that is largely unregulated."
Err... what? What's meant by "natural chemical plans" here? And why would he have to justify his experiments if the country is largely unregulated?
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They are expressing their horror at the very thought of people doing things without permission.
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I can see a collaborative project coming on (Score:2)
CSI: Belize (Score:4, Funny)
FTA:
apparent gunshot wound on the upper rear part of his head
apparently dead
The local CSI team is verifying the facts
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"[...] where they saw 52 year old U.S National Mr. GREGORY VIANT FAULL, of the said address, lying face up in a pool of blood with an apparent gunshot wound on the upper rear part of his head apparently dead."
They are describing what the police reported seeing upon their arrival: Mr. Faull, lying face up in a pool of blood, with what appeared to be a gunshot wound on the upper rear part of his head, apparently dead when they arrived.
"Looks on first inspection like a gunshot wound" doesn't necessarily mean
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All of these can be consistent with someone "apparently dead" upon arrival, but not actually dead after further investigation and treatment.
This. Also, it's not that uncommon for people to survive gunshot wounds to the head, depending on the weapon and the exact path of the bullet, so even with a gunshot wound to the head there's no reason to jump to conclusions.
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If they don't have a publicly releasable autopsy report available then of course you're going to get these "apparently" statements. It's obvious when you look at it but you can't be legally "certain" until someone pronounces them dead and determines the cause of death.
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You don't know the gunshot killed him until the coroner does his thing. He could have already been dead. Hell he might have been dead from natural causes, and the gunshot was just desecration of a corpse.
There's a big difference between first degree murder and mutilating a corpse. They have to be sure. It's their job to be sure.
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They're still working on making a GUI using Visual Basic.
The plight of the nerd (Score:3, Funny)
The specific properties of the drugs he was attempting to isolate also fit in well with what those closest to him have reported: that he is an enthusiastic amateur pharmacologist with a longstanding interest in drugs that induce sexual behavior in women. Indeed, former friends of McAfee have said he could be extremely persistent and devious in trying to coerce women who rebuff his advances to have sex with him.
You see ladies, what we male nerds have to turn to? Stop being so uptight.
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You see ladies, what we male nerds have to turn to? Stop being so uptight.
They know.
Boon: Now, she should be good-looking, but we're willing to trade looks for a certain... morally casual attitude.
Katy: You mean you want someone he can screw on the first date.
More drug hysteria (Score:5, Interesting)
Why? (Score:5, Insightful)
Rape Drugs (Score:3)
The specific properties of the drugs he was attempting to isolate also fit in well with what those closest to him have reported: that he is an enthusiastic amateur pharmacologist with a longstanding interest in drugs that induce sexual behavior in women. Indeed, former friends of McAfee have said he could be extremely persistent and devious in trying to coerce women who rebuff his advances to have sex with him.
I wonder how much of this article is true. Sounds like a total douche.
All I can say is..... WOW! (Score:2)
Jeez - I knew this guy. For me this is what makes this story incredibly interesting.
He used to frequent a fairly small yoga class in Aptos about 10 years ago with his wife at the time. I remember he brought in a bunch of yoga books which he wrote and gave copies to everybody. I didn't know he was the McAfee guy at first but he seemed like an interesting person.
He later suffered from the local small-town rumor mill for something he did that I didn't pay attention to.
But this story is astounding to me! It rea
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After actually RTFA'ing the whole thing, and not just the first paragraph, it looks like this might be also a lot about the story of a drug abuser falling prey to some subtle secondary effects of his drug of choice. If he was as keen on experimenting with bath salts and other psychotropic drugs as he seems to be, I fully would expect him to lose it at some point. Who knows if he actually committed the murder - but there's all kinds of other lessons in here.
Re:Pitfalls of a libertarian paradise (Score:4, Funny)
Now let's not jump to conclusions here, maybe he was only doing research into detecting and terminating zombie processes.
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Sounds a lot like what people think a libertarian paradise should look like
Only people who know fuck-all about Libertarianism.
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Yeah, I know, Libertarianism always leads to paradise on earth, and ipso facto, anything that isn't paradise isn't Libertarianism. Well, you got that right. Exactly like how communism has never actually been properly implemented.
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Yeah, I know, Libertarianism always leads to paradise on earth, and ipso facto, anything that isn't paradise isn't Libertarianism. Well, you got that right. Exactly like how communism has never actually been properly implemented.
Right, because reality is binary - there is no such thing as middle ground, only extremely bad and extremely good.
That, or you're being obtuse.
Guess which one my money is on.
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Seems like all political extremists share the same methodology.
What qualifies as 'extreme' is subjective.
But of course, this is likely not limited to just 'extremists'. People generally don't want to be wrong, after all. Then of course there is the fact that people who really, really don't like something would probably want to blame everything that goes wrong on the thing that they don't like.
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On slashdor Libertarians also get mod points. Almost every post I've ever made here that was critical of Libertarianism has been modded down. Gives you a good idea of how much liberty would be extended to critics in a Libertarian regime.
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Funny how whenever someone cites an entirely subjective, blatantly false example of libertarianism not working, a bunch of libertarians jump out and say "No, that's not libertarianism!"
Of course we do; what would you expect, for us stand idly by as ignorami infect the world with their fallacious thinking? That's just not the Libertarian way.
Why is this funny? Because communists always used to do the same thing. Seems like all political extremists share the same methodology.
Kinda like how McCarthy and his ilk would label people he didn't agree with as "communist," then convince the ignorant masses that these "communists" were horrible, horrible 'political extremists,' even in spite of a complete lack of evidence?
Yea, funny, that.
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2) demonstrates their complete lack of knowledge of the political system governing the alleged "libertarian paradise;"
Are you asserting that "libertarian" is incompatible with a democratic republic? What types of governments is libertarianism compatible with? Anarchy-only?
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Once again, you demonstrate your complete inability to read and respond to what was written.
I am asserting that in no way, shape, or form, is Belize a "libertarian paradise," and any attempt to paint it as such is a foolish bit of sleight of hand that tries to define "libertarianism" as "anything that I think is foolish or want to make fun of."
Perhaps, since you seem to take issue with my statement, you can explain for us just what makes Belize the "libertarian paradise" you imagine it is? I mean, surely you're not just making this shit up as you go - surely you know ALL ABOUT Belize's government & their policies, and can tell us exactly how the Belize model fits exactly what libertarians everywhere are advocating?
The point about Belize is not that it fits in with some theoretical libertarian model of paradise, it's simply that it's the sort of country where if you're a rich cunt you can get away with a lot. And to those of us opposed to libertarian politics that is precisely what a libertarian system would lead to, even more than is the case at present.
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Ah gotcha. So you strawman it so you can hate it. Glad we got a handle on that.
Re:Pitfalls of a libertarian paradise (Score:5, Insightful)
Look, its another person twisting Libertarianism in to something it isn't so it sounds unpleasent to people who don't know any better.
Looks like you've got your work cut out for you, because what most of my self-described Libertarian friends say would fit right into this stereotype. I.e., indistinguishable from pure anarchy. Basing that on the 2 most of-repeated "Libertarian" maxims:
A) Government Regulation is Evil. Admittedly if you corner them, you can usually get a self-described Libertarian to confess that there's room for regulation, but when operating on auto-pilot they tend to forget to mention that. There's no clearly-defined ground rules for us outsiders to understand.
B) Taxes are Theft. Because apparently whatever government functions are admissible under Libertarianism are funded by the fairies. A belief also promoted liberally in recent years by the Conservative crowd who took the "tax" out of tax-and-spend, but not the "spend".
There's you a starting point. It's up to you to take the ball and run with it. Have fun!
Re:Pitfalls of a libertarian paradise (Score:4, Insightful)
A) Government Regulation is Evil. Admittedly if you corner them, you can usually get a self-described Libertarian to confess that there's room for regulation, but when operating on auto-pilot they tend to forget to mention that. There's no clearly-defined ground rules for us outsiders to understand.
B) Taxes are Theft. Because apparently whatever government functions are admissible under Libertarianism are funded by the fairies. A belief also promoted liberally in recent years by the Conservative crowd who took the "tax" out of tax-and-spend, but not the "spend".
It's only crazy if you take a geeky "black or white, all or nothing" view of these things - which admittedly many Libartarians do. Regulation is evil and taxes are theft, sure; that;s means we try to solve problems with the least regulation and taxation that actually solves the problem. That's quite a bit of taxes and regulation, actually. But seeking a solution that minimizes both, out of many possible solutions, is still a valid goal.
Re:Pitfalls of a libertarian paradise (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Pitfalls of a libertarian paradise (Score:4, Insightful)
Calm down everyone. You're all confusing three distinct phenomena: classic libertarianism, an inconsequential modern political third party, and the contemporary mainstream Randian wannabe sociopolitical movement of the same name that at best is nothing more than a reactionary coalition of political, social, and civic amateurs, some of which are actual liberal pro-legalization college kids that think they are brilliant scholars because they got an A in poli-sci and soc, and in-fact sociopolitical conservative moralists that are anti-tax because they either fear their money going to welfare or are borderline confederacy-seeking states rightists that want a Fed so small they can drown it in a bathtub. Add in a dash of actual anarcho-capitalist industrialists and entrepreneurs and crazed gold standard pushers of alternative currencies for flavor. By and large, the libertarian movement as it is popularized today is a caricature of the original libertarian movement, but populated by low information people that don't read enough, that get all their news from pundits, and who only recently in the last 8 years have taken a real interest in domestic policy and macroeconomics. To put it simply, they don't know what they don't know.
To put it another way, I have recently in the last decade taken a refreshed interest in physics after sleep walking through it as a student and a professional. But, much of my new learning comes from advocacy sources like Michio Kaku. I enjoy doing fun things with magnets and lasers. My teleportation machine is awesome, but I assure you, none of you should use it no matter how much I tell you I've worked out all the kinks because I'm a physics tourist and my input should be taken as if it came from an enthusiastic child that still believes in Santa.
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AnaCap
If by that you mean Anarcho-Capitalist, you should go outside and hang yourself from a tree. There is no legitimate crossover between the philosophical ideas of Anarchism and those of Capitalism. They are two different things that libertarians try to yoke together to make their beliefs sound more radical and less based on pure economic and ethical selfishness by grafting on the Anarcho- part.
If you want a society where brute economic power reigns through the imaginary "free market" then just have the gu
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Taxes that do not benefit me are theft. The government exists to serve the people. Taking my money and giving it to someone else, so that it does not benefit me is theft. Taking my money and using it for purposes that do benefit me is OK.
And this is where the essential sociooathy of libertarianism is exposed. As a society, most normal people think it good that the old, poor, ill or otherwise disadvantaged are provided for in some way. We also think it is a good idea to have roads, power grids, clean water and so on available to everyone. Having a justice system and police force is a good idea too, to protect the weak and vulnerable from the strong and ruthless. Giving everyone a good education helps to promote general well being, prosper
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Spot on. Quite frankly, I think most American Libertarians should call themselves Randians. They worship her books, and are actually pretty far removed from classic Libertarians like Locke.
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I fully agree with parent post. I, too, have read the whole story and I find it is highly realistic. Unpleasant, but definitely real. So not like Libertarianism at all.
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Nope. Not much room for fantasy in that story.
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{partial sarcasm}Well that is the problem with Open Source software when the creator stops being involved in the product the product in essence dies and goes on the waste side, as there is a loss of interest in the product. While commercial apps have teams of people and if it makes money it will continue on with the loss of it leader and it can even move from company to company{/partial sarcasm}
Re:Sounds familiar ... (Score:4)
{partial sarcasm}Well that is the problem with Open Source software when the creator stops being involved in the product the product in essence dies and goes on the waste side, as there is a loss of interest in the product. While commercial apps have teams of people and if it makes money it will continue on with the loss of it leader and it can even move from company to company{/partial sarcasm}
Sarcasm aside, Not necessarily.
With Open Source (FOSS, FLOSS - whatever you want to call it) if the creator stops being involved, the community behind it can pick it up. If there isn't enough community interest, then it falls by the wayside, but then it was either too early or not interesting enough.
With Commercial, if the business has a problem (e.g. the CEO gets indicted) and goes under, or is in serious question; then there is no one else to turn to. Your saving grace would be if someone bought it out and continued the product, but there's no guarantee that will happen and most companies won't want to toss the financial resources to buy the company if they don't think the product is worth it - e.g. there's a cheaper alternative.
For Hans and ReiserFS, RFS4 got continued by the community, but its still problematic and will now never make it to the mainline kernel. For McAfee, well, there's a sufficiently large corportate entity that nothing will happen - it'll go on, and if necessary change its name to avoid bad associated publicity due to any trial or bad outcome for Mr. McAfee.
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The reason reiserFS went the way it did is because nobody around understands it the way Hans did (mathematically) that can also do the programming work...
Eh, no. The thing you may not realize is that Hans Reiser wasn't even the primary author on later versions. He hired Russian programmers willing to work cheap, and seemed focused on being The Globetrotting Wheeling Dealing Genius In Charge rather than coding anything himself. Also, this lone genius mythology about ReiserFS possessing some kind of ineffable brilliance which only Reiser could understand needs to go away. Plenty of people understood every single concept in ReiserFS.