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British Prime Minister To Announce Porn Blocking Plans

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  • First they came.. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Bongoots (795869) * on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:02PM (#39896607)

    What next? The Internet and web should be free. There should never be any large-scale blocking of this sort, otherwise they'll add more categories in the future until we're left with a heavily restricted Internet/web, or worse: whitelisted categories.

  • by Daniel Dvorkin (106857) on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:06PM (#39896657) Homepage Journal

    The idea has support from MP Claire Perry, who said, 'There is a "hands off our internet" movement that sees any change in how access is delivered as censorship.'

    Yes. And?

  • by cpu6502 (1960974) on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:08PM (#39896689)

    Do I have to "opt in" if I want to read Huckleberry Finn or Anne Frank's uncensored diary? No. Free speech/press/expression means exactly that..... no censorship by the government of any book, paper, or website.

    Dumbass PM.

  • by Spad (470073) <slashdotNO@SPAMspad.co.uk> on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:11PM (#39896731) Homepage

    Because you can opt out. Of course, you won't opt out because you don't want to have to call your ISP and say "Please can you let me look at porn", or explain to your boyfriend/girlfriend/husband/wife why you've had the filth-filter turned off.

    It's really just another moronic step in the funeral parade of personal responsibility; this idea that people shouldn't have to think about requesting adult material be blocked on their connection, let alone actually look after their children and keep an eye on what they're doing online because, you know, that's *hard*.

    Stupid lazy fuckers would happily give away all their rights and freedoms if it meant they didn't have to think about anything too hard.

  • Please no... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by BootysnapChristAlive (2629837) on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:11PM (#39896737)

    Please don't make it a hassle for people who want to view the content. Not for the children, and not for anyone else. This isn't necessary. We've lived without this, and somehow the world hasn't collapsed due to it yet.

    This anti-sexuality nonsense has got to go. Even if a child does see the content, it will most likely not hurt them, anyway. I'd say ignorance is far more damaging.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:13PM (#39896763)

    What will happen is there will be a list compiled of the "weirdos" who choose to opt in. That list will be used to deny employment, raise insurance rates, and all manner of discrimination.

    Salem witch trials/Spanish Inquisition all over again except this time it's digital.

  • by dittbub (2425592) on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:15PM (#39896785)
    Everything on the internet is "opt in" access!!!
  • by Daniel Dvorkin (106857) on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:17PM (#39896801) Homepage Journal

    Ah, yes. Clearly.

    A couple of days ago, I told an English friend of mine, who was claiming that the UK would never tolerate anything like America's level of right-wing crazy, that I strongly suspected their Tories would be just as bad as our Republicans given the chance. I think this is all the proof I need that it's already happened. Not just the proposal itself, but the smug, smarmy, iron-fist-in-the-velvet-glove way Perry is defending it.

  • by geekoid (135745) <dadinportland@ya ... m minus math_god> on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:18PM (#39896813) Homepage Journal

    Just use email. I suspect special feature will emerge to allow you to email a time it's on, or have it turned on for a set amount of minutes.

    BTW, anyone reading this who has to hide porn from the So, should sit down and talk to there So about it, right now.
    Make a decision, either get comfortable watching it, or decide not to watch it.

  • Re:Please no... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ZeroSumHappiness (1710320) on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:20PM (#39896833)

    Early exposure to porn as serious detrimental effect latter in life. It's well documented.

    [citation needed]

  • by Ralph Spoilsport (673134) on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:30PM (#39896943) Journal
    Fuck You.
  • by cpu6502 (1960974) on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:30PM (#39896945)

    >>>"we know what is best for you" kind of mindset that few on the right have now (and the Tea Party is getting rid of the ones that remain)

    Oh really? The Tea Party Caucus in the House voted 71% in favor of CISPA. They've been co-opted by the Republican Party (which acts like Democrats). By the way I agree the left/right paradigm is pointless.

    It was originally a reference to the French Assembly of the 1790s, and has little relevance to the U.S. or modern politics. You are either for government control over individuals' choices, or against it. i.e. Statist or not.

  • by kheldan (1460303) on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:32PM (#39896961) Journal
    It's been proven time and time again that filtering isn't effective, and often it's abused by people with access and the power to affect what is and is not filtered!
  • by Hatta (162192) on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:32PM (#39896971) Journal

    The right wing in the U.S. these days mostly wants to reduce the power of federal government and leave you the hell alone.

    What a bald face lie. They want to reduce the power of federal government to enable corporations to rampage freely across the country, extracting profits and leaving negative externalities for everyone else to deal with.

    Personal liberty doesn't enter into it with the right wing. You won't find John Boener advocating for marijuana legalization any time soon.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:34PM (#39896993)

    unless you own a vagina. In which case they know whats best for you.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:35PM (#39897003)

    Unless you want an abortion. Or a gay marriage. Or freedom to practice your non-Christian religion. Moron.

  • by NeutronCowboy (896098) on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:36PM (#39897013)

    You do realize that the parents ALREADY can filter out the naughtiness from the internet connection? It's called putting the computer in the living room, and using a password on it. By the time the kids are old enough to defeat those security measures, they're old enough to browse for boobies. By the time they can defeat anything more serious, as well as the threat of "I'm logging everything at the router", they're old enough to have sex.

    In other words, this is a solution to a non-existent problem.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:43PM (#39897099)

    I personally don't see how this is any different from filtering adult TV channels

    The internet is not a fucking cable service. It's designed to be free and open by default. The majority of people are ignoramuses when it comes to technology, so they wouldn't understand that.

    they can still see porn

    Yeah, and if the government censored speech for everyone, those people could just move out of the country!

    How would you react if they said they were censoring certain political opinions by default? You could still see it if you asked, after all!

    Also, blocking porn is *not* easy for most people

    I don't give a shit. They can figure it out by themselves.

  • by mhajicek (1582795) on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:50PM (#39897181)
    Next you'll have to opt in for any site associated with political dissent, thereby labeling yourself as a dissenter.
  • by rmstar (114746) on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:55PM (#39897219)

    The bottom line: Both Republicans and Democrats pretty much suck. To favor one party over the other is pretty foolish.

    That is imbecile drivel. Obama is pretty much an enlightened saint next to all the crap the Republicans had as possible candidates. Claiming there is no difference is just utter idiocy.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04, 2012 @07:02PM (#39897293)

    Yeah, opt in to VIEW it.
    If parents are too retarded to setup web censorship, or, you know, TALK to their kids, they shouldn't be allowed to have any damn kids.
    I'm sick of lazy parents forcing their stupidity and laze on others.

    Porn first, adult content in general after it.
    Hell, the idiots even have age group restrictions in general!

    The web filters in their entirety should be banned.
    It costs the entire country money and I am pretty sure I don't give a damn about lazy parents or their already warped childrens minds.

  • by shop S Mart (755311) on Friday May 04, 2012 @07:05PM (#39897313)
    Start by blocking the internet porn, for the kids of course. A few years pass. Then block anything that could be deemed hate speech or offensive. Again for the kids. Govt bonus: have FBI/CIA/NSA secretly setup proxies and track people who use them to bypass the block. A few years pass. Next block anything from countries that might be unfriendly towards us, national security, nothing to see here move along. Govt bonus: have FBI/CIA/NSA secretly setup proxies and track people who use them to bypass the block. A few years pass. Start making it harder to opt in for porn, maybe even make users pay for access or a data plan that allows porn. Govt bonus: big list of people who want porn.
  • by king neckbeard (1801738) on Friday May 04, 2012 @07:21PM (#39897437)
    They start by making you have to opt-in for porn, then the filter is expanded for child porn, terrorism, hate speech, extremism, copyright infringement, and whatever. It's foot in the door technique.
  • It's been proven time and time again that filtering isn't effective,

    Nonsense. Filtering has been proven effective in many countries, including China and Iran. I daresay it's been proven cost effective in such countries as well. In fact, you will find that all this software was originally developed, tested, improved and optimised in such regimes, by western companies, and is now being sold back to the home country.

    and often it's abused by people with access and the power to affect what is and is not filtered!

    You are assuming that this is a side effect, and not the entire purpose of the system from the start. Filtering is designed to block things which those in power dislike.

    In this regard, there is no difference between porn, the pirate bay, islamist websites, or even the likes of zerohedge.com when it comes to the running of a successful filtering system. Once the system is in place, those in charge will block what they please.

    There will be no oversight or appeal to the courts, as a successful censorship/filtering system requires these options to be removed. This is the single biggest problem with such filters: they are above the rule of law.

  • by robot256 (1635039) on Friday May 04, 2012 @10:15PM (#39898535)
    It would be a service if the "inoffensive net" was opt-in, which I understand they already have. Put the other way around, it definitely is a restriction and/or a ridiculous political gimmick. Even if you can "opt-in" to the "unfiltered" net, who's to stop them from filtering that version too? Once the filter is up, the difference between "on" and "off" becomes a really blurry line. With an "optional" filter, you can still abuse it to shape public opinion if the majority of households have the filter enabled.
  • by EdIII (1114411) on Friday May 04, 2012 @10:21PM (#39898575)

    I was being completely sarcastic..... a filter/censorship/oppression system like this has nothing to do with porn. That's just the left hand going "look at me! look at me!" why the right hand is delivering the knife to your balls.

  • Weird (Score:5, Insightful)

    by bryan1945 (301828) on Friday May 04, 2012 @11:31PM (#39898901) Journal

    The British can show boobs on TV, but they want to actively block porn. In the US, you can't show boobs on TV, but everyone says porn in fine. And don't get me started on Japan.

  • by DrBoumBoum (926687) on Saturday May 05, 2012 @08:29AM (#39900853) Journal

    BTW, anyone reading this who has to hide porn from the So, should sit down and talk to there So about it, right now. Make a decision, either get comfortable watching it, or decide not to watch it.

    I do wank as much as I want and nobody needs to know anything about it, wife included. She's not interested in it anyway, no more than she's interested in the stench of my shit. I'm perfectly comfortable with it. May I humbly suggest that you and your likes go fuck yourselves?

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