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File Sharing In the Post MegaUpload Era 334

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An anonymous reader writes "This report looks at file sharing in the post MegaUpload era. The main finding — file sharing did not go away. It did not even decrease much in North America. Mainly, file sharing became staggeringly less efficient. Instead of terabytes of North America MegaUpload traffic going to U.S. servers, most file sharing traffic now comes from Europe over far more expensive transatlantic links."
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File Sharing In the Post MegaUpload Era

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  • Blame Napster (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Shakrai (717556) * on Wednesday February 08, 2012 @04:54PM (#38972011) Journal

    Blame Napster for making file sharing main stream. Back in the day when we had to walk uphill to school both ways the only way to pirate stuff was to be a geek or know someone who was. In the glory days most piracy happened on BBS'es, IRC and USENET. The former two were generally only available to those "in the know" while the latter was mostly used by people seeking pornography (who remembers working on PCs and finding gigabyte sized Free Agent cache directories?)

    In the end even the RIAA/MPAA types know that they will never stop piracy. Driving it further underground and returning it to the domain of the technically informed would stem their perceived losses though. I'm not sure if this is an obtainable goal with the internet being what it is but you can bet they will keep trying as long as they draw breath. The only thing that will stop this is the rise of meaningful (read: cheap and easy to use) online services that make piracy more trouble than it's worth. A lot of people think that iTunes did this for music, though I would argue that Pandora has done more to negate music piracy than iTunes. I don't think you can directly translate Pandora into movies though.

  • Re:Blame Napster (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Hatta (162192) on Wednesday February 08, 2012 @05:07PM (#38972213) Journal

    Driving it further underground and returning it to the domain of the technically informed would stem their perceived losses though. I'm not sure if this is an obtainable goal with the internet being what it is but you can bet they will keep trying as long as they draw breath.

    Not a chance. Even if we had to go back to finding files on IRC, someone would whip up an XBMC plugin that made it entirely transparent and usable by morons.

  • by JoeMerchant (803320) on Wednesday February 08, 2012 @05:09PM (#38972231)

    Hey, let's go back to the way it was in the 90's

    Yeah, piracy didn't exist in the 90s. Do we get the don't copy that floppy [youtube.com] guy back too?

    I think my first "copy party experience" was in a church, in 1983ish... Everybody had their box of 100+ floppies and you'd walk around and see if there was anything you wanted, "borrow it" for 5 minutes to make a copy, rinse, lather, and repeat, for hours.

  • Re:Blame Napster (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Shakrai (717556) * on Wednesday February 08, 2012 @05:22PM (#38972445) Journal

    or we can accept it and make a world that the artists (not corporate middlemen) can make a living.

    That's a great theory where music is concerned and any start up band can get going with a couple hundred bucks worth of equipment and a broadband connection. I'm not so certain how it translates into movies though. To pick one of my favorite bits of modern culture, do you think you can bring Harry Potter onto the big screen without the resources of big budget movie studio? All of the special effects, the editing, the cinematographers, the actors, director, stunt performers, etc, etc? How do you propose to see that the "artists" in this example get paid without having some sort of corporate middleman?

    If you accept that movies are a part of our culture then there has to be a sane middle ground between "information wants to be free!" and "we are going to control where and when you can watch the movie you paid for"

  • by khr (708262) <kevinrubin@gmail.com> on Wednesday February 08, 2012 @05:25PM (#38972513) Homepage

    I think my first "copy party experience" was in a church, in 1983ish... Everybody had their box of 100+ floppies and you'd walk around and see if there was anything you wanted, "borrow it" for 5 minutes to make a copy, rinse, lather, and repeat, for hours.

    For me it was in high school, all the nerds wandered around with boxes of flopppies, some of us custom painted our boxes, or put stickers so everyone knew who was cool...

    When the school had all Apple computers we used to trade games and utilities straight across, disk for disk... If you didn't have something someone else was interested in, you didn't get their stuff. But once we all started upgrading to PCs, we were a lot more free about "sure, copy anything you want". I don't know what changed, really, same people, mostly the same physical floppy disks, too...

  • Re:Economics (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Samantha Wright (1324923) on Wednesday February 08, 2012 @05:51PM (#38972923) Homepage Journal
    People will also donate to artists, even those who aren't in theatres or in concert, simply because they're super-impressed with them: behold, the humble donation. Since concerts are so expensive to organize, I believe that artists should focus on cultivating and engaging their fan base, much like web comic artists do, in order to make their living. It's an act of extreme arrogance to believe you can just dump a record at a consumer and expect to have money thrown at you for doing so, without ever going out and asking the consumer what he or she wants. This, essentially, is why the content industry is falling apart; much like when shows on Fox started failing simply because everyone expected them to get cancelled, and stopped putting their hearts on the line.
  • Re:Blame Napster (Score:5, Interesting)

    by aztracker1 (702135) on Wednesday February 08, 2012 @05:55PM (#38972983) Homepage
    Using IRC as a host network for Bittorrent trackers, etc would be pretty effective in terms of not getting shut down though...
  • Re:Blame Napster (Score:5, Interesting)

    by 0123456 (636235) on Wednesday February 08, 2012 @05:57PM (#38973005)

    They aren't mutually exclusive you know. I'd love to see you tell the story of Harry Potter without "fancy effects" and I doubt you can say that story isn't character based.

    It's a bunch of kids in a school waving wands around. If Ealing Studios had made it in the 50s it would have cost less than a million dollars in today's money even with Alec Guinness playing one of the leads.

    Heck, I've seen at least one TV show with a very similar plot and I guarantee you they didn't have a multi-million dollar budget for each episode.

  • Re:Blame Napster (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anne Thwacks (531696) on Wednesday February 08, 2012 @06:14PM (#38973215)
    Loads of perfectly good Nigerian movies are made with lower budgets than the average Nigerian wedding. The plots are more interesting than most of Hollywood's products and you can watch them for free on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/movie?v=h3rAItM0lMw&ob=av1n&feature=mv_sr [youtube.com] . However, the effects are typically less than special.
  • by sgtrock (191182) on Wednesday February 08, 2012 @07:10PM (#38974087)

    I'm not willing to pay $3 to watch a 27 year old movie [amazon.com]. I'm ESPECIALLY not going to do so on top of an $80/year subscription to have the 'privilege' of paying those kinds of ridiculous fees.

    Nope, Netflix [roku.com] at $8 or $9 a month is about right for just about everything I want to watch. When I can't find what I want to watch there, Hulu Plus [roku.com] for another $8 a month fills in the holes. (Although I'm finding that my faimly just doesn't care as much about Hulu Plus as I thought they might be.)

    Then there's all the free or cheap movie resources [roku.com] of all kinds to fill up your evenings, specialty channels [roku.com], streaming music [roku.com], news [roku.com], private channels created by the community [roku.com], and more galore!

    Forget using your MythTV box for anything other than a basic media center for serving up your ripped DVDs and CDs. Drop your cable TV subscription and get yourself a Roku instead. :-)

  • Re:Blame Napster (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Esteanil (710082) * on Wednesday February 08, 2012 @07:45PM (#38974587) Homepage Journal

    Check out the trailer for Iron Sky, http://www.ironsky.net/ [ironsky.net] - then check out their budget http://www.ironsky.net/site/support/finance/ [ironsky.net]

    This is their second film, the first one (the most popular film ever created in Finland) was mainly distributed (for free) over bittorrent.

    Looks better than anything set to come out of Hollywood this year, IMO.

    Conclusion: If Hollywood dies, we'll still have good movies. Not that there's much chance of that, seeing as they're making more money than ever...

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