Canadian SOPA Could Target YouTube 231
bs0d3 writes "The music industry is seeking over a dozen changes to Canadian anti-piracy bill C-11, including website blocking, Internet termination for alleged repeat infringers, and an expansion of the "enabler" provision that is supposedly designed to target pirate sites. Meanwhile, the Entertainment Software Association of Canada also wants an expansion of the enabler provision along with further tightening of the already-restrictive digital lock rules. It's concerning that some of these expansions will create a risky situation for legitimate websites, as SOPA did in the U.S. Michael Geist outlines the legal history and complications here."
Oh, Canada (Score:5, Insightful)
Looks like the citizens of every country are going to have to stay on careful guard these days. When the music industry loses in one country, they just shift focus to another for a while (then later try to sneak back in under the radar where they lost). I guess they're hoping they have the money to wait everyone out. Sadly, they may be right.
Couldn't someone start a rumor that this bill is anti-French? At least that would get Quebec to come out against it. Of course, that's a pretty dubious ally. But you take what you can get.
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Re:Oh, Canada (Score:5, Insightful)
The SOPA war is far from over. Hell, we're just now seeing the openning skirmishes. Why doesn't the MAFIAA just come out and say 'All yer IP is belong to us' already and be done with it?
Re:you know (Score:5, Insightful)
"We" voted the fundamentalist Conservative party into majority last year. Probably the ONLY reason bad laws weren't passed the last five years is they'd been kept in check with a minority. Infallible? Canada? Hah!
There's no stopping this crap bill or ACTA this time. The next federal election is 3 years away, people will have forgotten this by then (assuming they haven't been locked up in the new mega-prisons thanks to an massive crime and punishment bill that even Texas Republicans said was unworkable, having tried the same thing themselves and failed miserably).
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Re:Oh, Canada (Score:5, Insightful)
The companies which are members of the music and film industry associations of America like to hide behind their RIAA and MPAA acronyms. Turnabout is fair play.
Re:Oh, Canada (Score:5, Insightful)
That is completely ignoring the fact that media companies grew directly out of the real mafia that ran saloons, music halls, theaters and "distribution" (trucking).
Re:Oh, Canada (Score:5, Insightful)
Troll much?
Quebec voted against the current Conservative government. We massively voted for the NPD, which is a party more interested in social issues and the people. The current party in power who's not listening to Canadian wasn't voted in by Quebec, it was voted in by the rest of Canada. Shocking EH! As a French speaker, born in Montreal, I can tell you that I dislike the "Office de la langue Française" and how they are obcess with protecting the french language and the culture. But who gives a fuck about that, this isn't what C-11 is about.
Seriously, modify your comments with black or jewish people instead of Quebec and ask yourself if you sound too much like a biggot. In Quebec, just like with the rest of Canada, we have protests about stuff that concerns all of us. We had the occupy movements in some of our cities, we had protests against being in Irak. Maybe you live in this world where Quebec is a bunch of separatists who don't care about the rest of Canada or the world, and if so, you've fallen in a bad stereotype, because that's not the case. If it was the case, Quebec wouldn't be part of Canada still, our provincial government wouldn't be the Liberals and we wouldn't have such a diverse culture from all over the world.
So, I hope you'll be more careful in the future, not just about Quebec, but about all cultures and all nations all over the world. Racist comments have no place in this day and age.
Do we all realize (Score:4, Insightful)
with out media companies there is no threat to the internet?
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that you exported your shit over there. your idiocy in your own country allowed the private interests to set up a globe spanning racketeering operation.
Re:Oh, Canada (Score:5, Insightful)
Except the MAFIAA designation implies more than just one *AA group, and has thus come to refer to all the member of the media cartels. The "Micro$oft terminology" only referenced one company and was actually harder to type than their actual name.
I prefer to simply say MAFIAA, rather than RIAA, MPAA, Business Software Alliance (BSA), Entertainment Software Alliance (ESA), and all the other organizations that have come out in support of SOPA [wikipedia.org]. It may have started out as a jab, but for most, it's come to be representative of the supporters of this crap as a whole outside of the negative connotations of the name.
Re:you know (Score:3, Insightful)
Sorry bout that, but I didn't send them North.
Where the Cons came from.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Look into the history of the top Canadian Conservative Party players. Not the vast majority of Cons that are no more than potted plants, or seals trained to bark and clap for their masters. From the politicians to the apparatchiks to the guys in the third party non-profits, you'll find that the key people are all close to the Republicans.
They've worked under the top republican spinmasters, the top republican spinmasters have worked under them. They've helped campaign for republicans in the US, then come back to implement the dirty tricks and lying, spinning, right wing corporate PR complex up north.
So if you guys could have kept all your fascists and their fascist training on your side of the border, that would've been great.
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Re:Oh, Canada (Score:5, Insightful)
The mafia was involved in music distribution until very recently. Now that the Soviet Union is gone the US government doesn't need the mafia to control unions and bust commie heads so they have cracked down and weakened the mob. But I assure you until the collapse of the Soviet Bloc the mafia controlled music. Have you ever heard of these clauses in music contracts that allow the label to deduct some percent of your sales for "breakage in shipping"? Yes, even in the digital age this mafia era clause still gets in your contract unless you have a good lawyer. I agree with you that "MAFIAA" is kind of juvenile. I prefer the term "media cartels" because it is both technically accurate and an allusion to their criminal past both as mobbed up shipping companies and patent violating movie studios.
Re:you know (Score:4, Insightful)
The only reason we held out was because the parties in power at the time (Liberal and Conservative both) were minority governments. Twice, copyright reform bills died when the government fell and an election was called. Last time, the Conservatives knew an election was coming and "listened" to the public outcry and shelved the bill, to give people one less bullet point against them.
Then they got a majority. There'll be no stopping them this time.
Re:Oh, Canada (Score:5, Insightful)
borderline racist
French is a race now?
And why was I not told?!?!?
Re:Oh, Canada (Score:2, Insightful)
Because, here, the party with a majority can pass anything, there are no levels to restrain a majority party (unless the party falls apart and the party Whip makes sure that doesn't happen).
Canada does really well as long as we have a benevalent leader, but if we don't, then we are screwed. The alternative is for us to have minority governments where they can't pass a law without working with another party; this is what we have had for the past while and so a lot of draconian laws could not be passed/implemented without toppling the government and forcing an election and thus the minority government couldn't really push anything (see WikiLeaks about Canada for a bunch of laws that were "put off" because of this). However, now that we have a party with a majority they can not use the minority issue to delay and thus those laws are coming our way and there is little-to-nothing a regular person can do to stop it :(
As an aside, I don't think it would have mattered who won the majority here, Liberals, Conservatives, or even NDP; any party that got a majority would be bringing all this shit in since it is being directed from outside our country and by corporations within it that can use it to their own advantage. Wikileaks has a bunch of leaks showing that all the parties were toeing the US line for almost everything....
Re:Oh, Canada (Score:5, Insightful)
No, it's not. The MPAA & RIAA (aka "MAFIAA") are practicing a form of legalized racketeering, bribery, intimidation, etc. Except rather than having thick-necked goons do the enforcement late at night, they're using slick attorneys and lobbyists to abstract away the dirty work from their hands to the government's.
The "Rule of Law" argument is really nice and all, especially when you're writing all the rules.
Remember, all the seizures of arts in France by the Nazis was "legal", too.