USTR Publishes Rogue Sites List 82
bs0d3 writes "The U.S. Government has classified some of the largest websites on the Internet as examples of sites which sustain global piracy. The list released by the United States Trade Representative draws exclusively on input from rightsholders. It includes popular torrent sites such as The Pirate Bay, file-hosting service Megaupload, and Russia's leading social network VKontakte. VKontakte says that company's copyright problems are in the past after a deal was made with the USTR. Also, for the first time in many years, China's leading search engine Baidu has been removed from the list. However, China's widely used online consumer and business-oriented online shopping service Taobao remains listed. The full report can be viewed here. It has no legal implications whatsoever, but may be referred to by policy makers regarding future legislation (e.g. SOPA)."
Not All Rightsholders (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm a rightsholder too. For example, I hold the rights to this post. But I wasn't included.
I think it's more correct to say that they drew input exclusively from large media cartel members, not from rightsholders in general.
If they had asked me, for example, I would have listed riaa.org and mpaa.org as rogue sites that sustain global piracy. I don't need evidence. I'm a rightsholder!
ThePirateBay and Baidu...? (Score:5, Insightful)
And not Google? or Bing?
filetype:torrent $SEARCH_TERM
Another biased & agenda laden publication from The United Corporations of America.
Modchip.ca and Controlsource (Score:5, Insightful)
I love how these two sites made it into the list. They are claimed to be selling "circumvention devices and components used to circumvent technological protection measures on consoles". If they are openly selling these things, I am assuming it is legal in Canada to do so - showing a lovely attitude of "If we call it illegal, it is illegal everywhere in the entire world!" from American "rightholders".
Also, that must have been from the Rightholder Group Dept of Redundancy Right Holder Group.
Re:Not All Rightsholders (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:U.S. Trade Representative (Score:5, Insightful)
...because both parties are generally on the take.
FTFY.
Why isn't Disney on the list? (Score:5, Insightful)
Disney has pirated a lot from the brothers Grimm, Mark Twain, Hans Christian Anderson, etc. And, they continue to pirate our culture [wikipedia.org].
Re:ThePirateBay and Baidu...? (Score:2, Insightful)
Usually Google is the tool the author and the end 'consumer of piracy' use to find these sites. And once found the "consumer" just cuts out google and goes to the site directly. Google is a good "research tool" in this way.
Referencing the article, it is a very abbreviated list containing a variety of markets (albeit incomplete), but notoriously missing from the category of markets is the actual SOURCE(s) of the pirated content -- the sources that are producing the pirated material and also distributing it to the various markets (which are responsible for only mass distribution) listed in the document.
Re:And? (Score:5, Insightful)
If you're trying to find pirated movies or software, it's got a nice list of sites you can go to.
Legislate all you like... never going to work (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm convinced that anything which legislates against common human behavior will never have the desired effect. This generalization is, of course, with exceptions and limitations (consider laws against theft and murder and the like) but largely holds true of many things. Laws against prostitution, for example has never stopped it and does little to even inhibit it. A law against smoking wouldn't help. There are countless other examples where civil behavior will simply always be a fact of human society. I hold that file and information sharing is one of these things and what's more, I hold we can't really be human without it. I know it sounds absurd, but what we are talking about is sharing human culture, heritage, art, expression... these are the things that make us human. Trying to package it and make it a "product" is okay within limits, but at some point, it becomes anti-human and I hold we have passed beyond that point quite some time ago.
People who do not have rights (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:And? (Score:5, Insightful)
Does anyone in the real world care about this list? Unless you're after government contracts I can't really see how business is likely to be affected by your inclusion on it.
Damned right they do! As TFA predicts, clueless policy makers will soon be citing it as "the official list of pirate sites...", if they are not already. "After all, teh list is on teh interwebs, so it must be true. Think of the children..." The same braid dead rationale behind SOPA is already in play here. Just because it does not (yet) carry the force of law, it's effect is very real.
ip law is defunct (Score:5, Insightful)
the internet killed it
it is unenforceable law
millions of global media hungry technology savvy and most importantly POOR teenagers has made this so, and there is absolutely nothing anyone can do this short of destroying the internet
not that they won't try, and not that they understand or accept this, but maybe someone should scream into these ignorant fucking media dinosaur's ears until they understand that no amount of purchased congresscritter whores, hired tech hacks, or lawyer goons can stop this
game over morons. please don't destroy the most imporatnt media invention since the written word and the printing press in your disability to comprehend fucking reality