Russian Websites Critical of Elections Targeted In DDoS Attack 156
theshowmecanuck submits this news from Russia, where "Websites which exposed violations in Russia's parliamentary elections were inaccessible Sunday in a hacking attack they said was aimed at preventing them revealing the extent of election day fraud." Further, says the linked article, "Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, whose United Russia party is expected to win Sunday's polls but with a reduced majority, has denounced non-governmental organisations like Golos, comparing them to the disciple Judas who betrayed Jesus. Russia has seen an upsurge in Internet penetration since the last elections in 2007, and analysts have said the explosion of critical material on the web poses one of the biggest challenges to United Russia's grip on power."
No "Soviet Russia" jokes, please. This is serious. (Score:3, Insightful)
Don't post any "In Soviet Russia ..." jokes here, please. This submission is strictly for serious discussion.
Re:No "Soviet Russia" jokes, please. This is serio (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, that's one more choice than Americans have got.
Re:mafia party (Score:5, Insightful)
Let me quote you:
"That's why you don't want socialism or communism or totalitarianism or dictatorship or any kind"
If capitalism is just an economic model then why do you have problems with socialism which is also just an economic model?
Re:mafia party (Score:1, Insightful)
And this is different from capitalism exactly how?
- I am not surprised that you don't understand, earlier on you couldn't understand simple facts about inflation.
Capitalism is not something that is forced upon people by other people, socialism is.
Capitalism, if you want, is 'forced' upon people by nature of being alive on this planet. Capitalism is your work minus your consumption, whatever is left (under-consumption or overproduction) is what you call 'savings' and you can then reinvest it to make more profit. For example you can hire help to do what you do or you can buy a machine to make your own labor more efficient.
So a fisherman who catches more fish than he eats and than he barters for other necessities has a surplus. Given enough surplus he can buy a bigger boat, better net or hire labor. This makes him a capitalist.
Nobody FORCED him to be a capitalist except his own initiative.
Socialism is a bunch of people getting together who decided they are going to loot whatever a more enterprising 'fisherman' is saving and thus they impose a government and themselves (as thieves that they are) upon this fisherman.
Socialism is a political system while capitalism is the best economic model we have. That's the difference, but as I said, I remember you couldn't understand basic economics and you were stuck in the valley of Keynesian magic.
Re:No "Soviet Russia" jokes, please. This is serio (Score:5, Insightful)
Under Capitalism, man oppresses man. Under Communism, it's exactly the opposite.
- Woody Allen
This Damn Internet (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:no Majority (Score:5, Insightful)
In a democratic society with a long-standing culture of openness and freedom, most people don't hide their political beliefs, and will happily tell you which way they had voted. If people are willing to lie in exit polls in sufficient numbers that it skews the result, it indicates that something's very wrong with democracy in the country.
Re:It did not help (Score:4, Insightful)
You're kidding right? I don't know about UK politics but in the US both parties are controlled by the same people. We get to choose between tweedle dee and tweedle dum.
Re:It did not help (Score:4, Insightful)
... in the US both parties are controlled by the same people.
You're exaggerating or kidding, right? They aren't controlled by the same people. Those different people do have the same motivations, though, so the resulting behaviors are often identical. Your declaration would have been accurate enough if you'd said, "controlled by people who behave the same", but you didn't say that.
Re:It did not help (Score:4, Insightful)
I didn't say "agendas". I wasn't referring to what they believe but rather how they go about achieving goals... in other words, their behavior. I was also referring to the people who control the parties, not so much the rank and file.
To distill my point further: people at the pinnacle of hierarchies tend to all behave the same - unethically - regardless what the name is on the clubhouse or what its purpose is. Yes, there are exceptions, but not many. Political parties are never an exception.