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German Ban On Doom Finally Lifted 176

Posted by Soulskill
from the that-was-fast dept.
An anonymous reader writes "18 years after its debut, Doom, the game that almost single-handedly popularized the FPS genre (remember when we just called them Doom clones?) is finally seeing the light of legality in the nation of Germany. The lifting of the ban also applies to the beloved sequel Doom II. A release date has yet to be set. I recommend that Germans who have not found some way to play this game over the last 18 years, please do so upon its release. Despite its age, it's still fun as hell. (Pun very much intended.)"
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German Ban On Doom Finally Lifted

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  • Nazis (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Hatta (162192) on Wednesday August 31, 2011 @07:12PM (#37270128) Journal

    This is a good move, but the fact that it was banned at all still tells me that the Germans have a problem with authoritarianism.

  • by Dunbal (464142) * on Wednesday August 31, 2011 @09:17PM (#37271070)

    The ban on speaking of them was bad enough that they finally realized that the gag on nazi 'symbolism' lead to German children who had little idea

    Don't forget who wrote the German constitution after the war. The Allies were desperate to turn the German people into monsters and make them feel guilty for being German that even the word "Nazi" became associated with the foulest demons from Hell. Reality is that there were a very few fanatics running the show, and the rest of the sheep did what they were told. It becomes easy to do unusual things when everyone else is doing them. Then eventually when war started what choice did the conscript have when he was given a gun and put on a battlefield? Not every German soldier delighted in killing, nor is the joy of seeing a person die unique to the German people. I've seen more than one video of US troops hooting like drunk teenagers while watching humans being turned to hamburger by a variety of ordnance in Iraq and Afghanistan. What makes them different from supposed "war criminals"? While killing is an accepted part of war, you're not supposed to LIKE it.

  • Re:Er- why? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by hairyfeet (841228) <bassbeast1968 AT gmail DOT com> on Thursday September 01, 2011 @03:17AM (#37272738) Journal

    But that still doesn't really explain why Germans try to erase history by banning it. Do they think that will make Nazism magically disappear? This is why I think the American way is better, let them act like asses in the open so you don't let hatred fester and instead can confront it directly. i know from first hand experience that this method WORKS.

    When I lived in Dallas several years ago I ran across some Neo Nazis trying to spread their hate literature so I went to a little hobby shop around the corner and made up my own little sign. it simply read "Ask me about the camps" and when people would stop I would tell them of my grandfather's experience liberating a camp, of the bodies so starved they couldn't tell male from female, of seeing cattle cars filled with corpses, of having to relay instructions to his men NOT to feed the starving no matter how much it ate at them, because they had been mistreated and starved for so damned long that rich GI food would throw their frail little bodies into shock.

    Needless to say the little Hitlers were none to happy about this, one even tried to get a cop to make me go away. The cop laughed and I heard him say 'Free speech pal, he can speak too" so they packed up and went away. It is ALWAYS better to confront hate with truth than it is to hide it under the rug. Hidden in the dark it just festers and grows. if the Germans would quit trying to pretend it didn't exist and instead confront it with truth I think they'd find they'd be a lot better off.

    Maybe TFA will be the start of that, but I doubt it, too many prefer to pretend bad things don't exist than confront them with the truth. I personally will always confront Nazis with the truth in honor of my grandfather, whom I promised to never forget what he had seen that day.

  • Re:Er- why? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by g4b (956118) on Thursday September 01, 2011 @06:32AM (#37273456) Homepage

    while your point is right (truth is better), your view on germany is clouded by your patriotism.

    first off, banning nazism is a law made by the allieds. as mentioned in replies.

    second, most germans know what you are talking about and would share the same views. they do a lot of work to support minorities, try to keep radical politics down, base their strength on economy. every german is educated in school about the nazi regime. even without laws it would feel awkward to raise a swastika. it feels awkward for us europeans, that people in the states still do that.
    germany migrated a western and an eastern world into one, while other ex-east-block countries still suffer, even the richer ones, like poland or hungary.

    you see, hate is not a german problem. it's a human problem. and hate is only a medium how you get to people. its always power and wealth. greedy people in a system where power is unequally distributed tend to get exceptionally inhumane. atm. i would look closer at the states, where democracy is falling apart, and learn from germanies past, how fast that can lead into becoming eaten by the dark side. hate is just one of many tools of how people can be used by others. there were (and are) also camps in other countries, where hate had/has nothing to do with it.

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