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ISPs Will Now Be Copyright Cops 338

An anonymous reader writes "Wendy Seltzer, Fellow at Princeton University's Center for Information Technology Policy, talks about the new plan by ISPs and content providers to 'crack down on what users can do with their internet connections' using a 6-step warning system to curb online copyright infringement."
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ISPs Will Now Be Copyright Cops

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  • by tepples ( 727027 ) <tepples.gmail@com> on Saturday August 06, 2011 @07:10PM (#37010794) Homepage Journal
    Wikipedia says [wikipedia.org] she's a lawyer who founded Chilling Effects and used to work for the EFF.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 06, 2011 @07:14PM (#37010818)

    I mean, other than some stupid bitch?

    Dude. Google. Your friend. Try it.

    "Sits on the board of the TOR PROJECT."

    I'm fairly certain the 'stupid bitch' is probably in the ISP's sights, as well.

    TFA. Read it.

  • 16billion in loses? (Score:5, Informative)

    by arbiter1 ( 1204146 ) on Saturday August 06, 2011 @07:25PM (#37010890)
    That is numbers from movie and music companies, Sure we all remember story's in the past of these companies inflating their loses to make it look worse then it was.
  • Re:Uh, SSL? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Freddybear ( 1805256 ) on Saturday August 06, 2011 @07:56PM (#37011126)

    Encryption won't work. The MAFIAA gets your IP address from the tracker, or by joining the torrent swarms for files they considering to be infringing. Then they make the ISP correlate the IP address to your account.

    You'd need a VPN proxy network to obscure your IP address from the tracker and the other members of the torrent swarm.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 06, 2011 @07:59PM (#37011144)

    Yes, but the age-old approach to social ills has not been to actually find a cure. Instead, people are satisfied with the sense that there is a cosmic balance between crime and punishment. So as long as there are victims to crucify, the war on drugs, piracy, terrorism, abortion, homosexuality etc can be considered a great success.

    Those with a conservative mindset are even opposed to real solutions if they break the cosmic balance. Giving condoms to teens (no baby as a punishment). Removing poverty from functioning social democracies (the Scandinavian countries were admonished by Pope John Paul II for removing poverty and thus the possibility of Christians to practice charity).

  • RTFS? (Score:3, Informative)

    by curio_city ( 1972556 ) on Saturday August 06, 2011 @08:06PM (#37011182)

    talks about the new plan by ISPs and content providers

    Not her plan, she's just talking about it.

  • Re:just plain absurd (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 06, 2011 @08:27PM (#37011266)

    Protip: If it is possible to sign away your rights, they aren't really rights and your country isn't free.

  • by Imrik ( 148191 ) on Saturday August 06, 2011 @09:23PM (#37011544) Homepage

    ISPs are not common carriers, they were granted some of the benefits that common carriers get but without the obligations.

  • by mcgrew ( 92797 ) * on Sunday August 07, 2011 @07:32AM (#37013314) Homepage Journal

    What's troubling to me is, if I think I'm downloading The Station's "Fingertips" [archive.org], I'm far more likely to download Stevie Wonder's completely different song with the same name, even if I may loathe Wonder's music.

    Yet another of the RIAA's tools against lost revenue; revenue lost to their competition. TFA (either disingenuously, ignorantly, or stupidly) claims this is a loss to the economy, which is an unmitigated lie. The economy loses NOTHING when you download. When you download that copy of Photoshop that you could no way in hell afford, how has Adobe lost anything?

    AND, Piracy generates revenue. As Doctorow says in the forward to one of his books (which I read for free), nobody ever lost money from piracy, but many artists have starved from obscurity. He credits his standing as a New York Times best seller to the fact that he gives his books away for free on boingboing.

    I was at the library yesterday. I checked out Charles Portis' "True Grit" and Fred Pohl's "All The Lives He Led" (I thought Pohl was dead, but he's still writing, this is a new book), two DVDs and two CDs, and it cost me the price of gas to drive two miles. Did Portis and Pohl lose any money because I'm not paying to read their books?

    I have dozens of books by Isaac Asimov. Without libraries, I'd never have bought a single one of them. I see no difference whatever between the internet and the library, especially since my library doesn't have to even own a book for me to check it out; there are interlibrary loans.

    The RIAA and MPAA are the real pirates.

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