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US Gov't Mistakenly Shuts Down 84,000 Sites 296

Chaonici writes "Last Friday, the United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) seized ten websites accused of selling counterfeit goods or trafficking in child pornography. However, in the process, about 84,000 unrelated websites were taken offline when the government mistakenly seized the domain of a large DNS provider, FreeDNS. By now, the mistake has been corrected and most of the websites' domains again point to the sites themselves, rather than an intimidating domain seizure image. In a press release, the DHS praised themselves for taking down those ten websites, but completely failed to acknowledge their massive blunder."
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US Gov't Mistakenly Shuts Down 84,000 Sites

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  • by ugen ( 93902 ) on Wednesday February 16, 2011 @08:30PM (#35226968)

    Quote:
    "As with previous seizures, ICE convinced a District Court judge to sign a seizure warrant, and then contacted the domain registries to point the domains in question to a server that hosts the warning message. However, somewhere in this process a mistake was made and as a result the domain of a large DNS service provider was seized."

    You may not like this, but a warrant signed by a judge *is* due process.

  • by ScentCone ( 795499 ) on Wednesday February 16, 2011 @08:32PM (#35226988)

    What the fuck does counterfeit goods and child porn have to do with the DHS?

    ICE is a part of DHS. You do understand what the "C" stands for, right? Right?

  • by rwade ( 131726 ) on Wednesday February 16, 2011 @08:45PM (#35227100)

    Well, it's certainly process, but it's clearly not due

  • by ScentCone ( 795499 ) on Wednesday February 16, 2011 @08:57PM (#35227192)
    People who smuggle in and fraudulently sell counterfeit goods are exactly their area of authority. It's true if the scammers sell the goods out the back of a van, and it's true if they sell them using an ad in the back of a magazine, and it's true if they use a web site. Siezing the web site isn't any different than siezing the warehouse where they stack up the counterfeit goods.

    The child porn stuff is also their turf if those "services" are being sold from over the border. And of course, most of those operations are based overseas, taking credit cards from domestic (US) customers. If the sites are registered within reach of US law enforcement, those registrations are fair game, just like the warehouse full of fake Nike products.
  • by darkpixel2k ( 623900 ) on Wednesday February 16, 2011 @09:23PM (#35227422)

    Quote: "As with previous seizures, ICE convinced a District Court judge to sign a seizure warrant, and then contacted the domain registries to point the domains in question to a server that hosts the warning message. However, somewhere in this process a mistake was made and as a result the domain of a large DNS service provider was seized."

    You may not like this, but a warrant signed by a judge *is* due process.

    Judges have to follow the law too.

    "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

    The judge can't issue a warrant without probably cause supported by Oath or affirmation and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.

    The problem is there is no penalty for government drones that violate our rights.

    For example--if I break into your house and take stuff, I go to jail. If the government breaks in illegally (without a proper warrant), they say "Oops, sorry" and continue on.

  • by nedlohs ( 1335013 ) on Wednesday February 16, 2011 @09:47PM (#35227566)

    No it's not. Judges sign invalid warrants on occassions, law enforcement does more than the warrant specifies on occassions, law enforcement lies in their applications for a warrant and gets it signed on occassions. All of those involve a warrant signed by a judge, but both are violations of due process.

  • Re:WHOAH Nelly (Score:4, Informative)

    by billcopc ( 196330 ) <vrillco@yahoo.com> on Wednesday February 16, 2011 @10:19PM (#35227742) Homepage

    Nah... DHS just ran out of people to falsely accuse of terrorism, so they've now set their sights on far more easily prosecuted targets. Just calling someone a pedophile, without evidence, is enough to ruin someone's reputation forever, if not get them killed outright from vigilante mobs.

  • Re:WHOAH Nelly (Score:5, Informative)

    by billstewart ( 78916 ) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @02:39AM (#35229194) Journal

    According to a report by ABC News, the National Academy of Science just released a report saying he may not have actually done it. [go.com]. That's after the Feds had accused a previous scientist who didn't cooperatively kill himself.

    Also, Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, codenamed "Curveball", admits he made up the WMD story so Bush would attack Saddam Hussein [talkingpointsmemo.com], and says he'd do that again (in spite of how well it worked out for everybody..)

    Bad enough that I have to watch The Comedy Channel to get TV news, but now I have to read FARK [fark.com] to get the updated stories on the causes of the Iraq war.

  • by Thing 1 ( 178996 ) on Thursday February 17, 2011 @09:11AM (#35230904) Journal
    DHS should be disbanded.

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