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Swedish ISPs To Thwart EU Data Retention Law 110

aaardwark writes "After a leaked document from the department of justice showed police will be able to demand extensive private information for minor offenses, some Swedish ISPs have decided to fight back (translated article). By routing all traffic through VPN, they plan to make the gathered data pointless. ISP Bahnhof says they will give you the option to opt out of VPN, but giving up your privacy will cost extra."
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Swedish ISPs To Thwart EU Data Retention Law

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  • Wrong motive (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MrQuacker ( 1938262 ) on Thursday January 27, 2011 @01:33AM (#35016978)
    It would be nice if their motive really was righteous. They seem to be doing it just because it would cost them a lot to comply with every request the police made.
  • Re:Wrong motive (Score:5, Insightful)

    by dcollins ( 135727 ) on Thursday January 27, 2011 @02:09AM (#35017096) Homepage

    "Google likewise decides to be notsoevil because otherwise it would cost them too much."

    I'm pretty convinced that Brin & Page have some specific political-philosophical motivations for what they do (partly based on Brin's upbringing in the Soviet Union), and not exclusively a profit motive.

  • Re:Wrong motive (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Sique ( 173459 ) on Thursday January 27, 2011 @03:19AM (#35017318) Homepage

    But if it's your ISP who does the hiding routinely and you have to pay extra to get clear text, which in turn means that everyone is doing it, what probable cause is it then?

  • Re:Wrong motive (Score:3, Insightful)

    by mcrbids ( 148650 ) on Thursday January 27, 2011 @04:02AM (#35017458) Journal

    It's important to accept the actions that people do that benefit you regardless of their motivations. Understanding their motivations is only useful in predicting future behavior, and perhaps to judge the veracity with which they pursue your common interest.

    Never, ever decry an action that benefits you or a cause you believe in because the actor's motivations aren't the same as yours!

  • Re:Wrong motive (Score:5, Insightful)

    by vegiVamp ( 518171 ) on Thursday January 27, 2011 @07:28AM (#35018206) Homepage

    It's not nust about splitting log events. It's also about adding a lot more logging (you don't routinely log every connection from every customer, let alone the contents of them); but also the keeping of records for seven years. Given the amount of traffic ISPs push, that requires ungodly amounts of storage, which in turn requires ungodly amounts of power.

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