Electric Cars May Be Made Noisier By Law 620
msgtomatt writes "The Pedestrian Safety Enhancement Act would require electric cars and hybrids to make noise, and would fund the Department of Transportation to create a set of rules for automakers, who would be allowed some leeway in how they carry out the guidelines." Downloadable and do-it-yourself car-tones are the future: my own snoring could keep deer and toddlers off the road.
Parking lots (Score:5, Interesting)
More than once I've had to side step quickly to avoid a Prius in a store parking lot - I'm used to audio cues of my environment, and they just weren't paying attention while backing out.
Sound-makers on Prius and others is already being done in Japan [edmunds.com]
Re:The sound I want (Score:4, Interesting)
How about George Jetson's bubble car sound?
Re:Why trust your ears? Unless you're blind that i (Score:4, Interesting)
I see adults cross the street without looking while on the phone and not even notice me beeping at them. And this was back when I drove a beat up car that sounded like a Boeing 747
Amen to that brother.
The thing that floors me is that people get hit by trains. TRAINS! We're talking like five-thousand plus tons of steel rumbling down a track, and people don't notice. How is this even possible? How self-absorbed do you have to be to notice a freaking TRAIN. I used to live not far from a freight line and the whole bloody ground shook when a train went by...
Re:..so? (Score:4, Interesting)
Do people really have problems with this kind of thing?
Yes. I don't feel any "safer" when I'm awakened by a dump truck backing up a quarter of a mile away. Do you?
Consider the rapid growth of hybrid/electric cars' market share. If the same epsilon-minus bureaucrats responsible for backup beeper regulations have anything to do with this law, it will almost be worth moving out of the city to avoid the racket.
Electronic transponder system (Score:5, Interesting)
It seems unnecessary to make things nosier for everyone when the number of people that need the noise is very small. Why not just have an electronic transponder system so that people can know where cars are relative to them. It would even work on vibration for those that are blind and deaf. It could give out more information, like speed and direction, and it it could work from further away if necessary.
Noise? That will solve everything.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Yeah i was thinking about that. (Score:2, Interesting)
I've noticed this funny trend in California (particularly, the part of California that I live in). It's especially odd after moving here from somewhere that this just seems so ridiculous.
Pedestrians assume they have the right of way (legally, they do), and so just walk out into the middle of the street, regardless of any kind of signal that they should or shouldn't at that particular point. If they get hit, then it's the car's fault, and to them, it doesn't seem to matter if they even gave the car a fighting chance at braking to stop from hitting them. Seriously, I've been out walking the town with a group of friends who just ran across a 55mph, 6 lane road with a crosswalk maybe 50 feet away that they could have gone to and waited on the traffic light to give them the ok to go, and they justify it by saying that they have the right of way and the cars have to stop anyway. I also have to slam on my breaks to keep from hitting similar idiots semi-regularly. Where I live before moving here, pedestrians would get cussed out for crossing on the crosswalk a little early or a little late. It's fucking backwards, but it's the way of life out here. And some of these people consider the cars they don't hear to be a huge inconvenience to them--forget that they're an even bigger inconvenience to the driver of those cars.
The other poster got the whole blind people part as well...
Re:Yeah i was thinking about that. (Score:5, Interesting)
This is actually an old story. Originally marketing and PR firms noted that cars produce distinctive engine noise that promote the label and with electric cars this would be gone, hence they worked on the idea of electric cars making marketing driving noise and seeking excuses to force it on customers.
This bit of legislative douchery is the means by which they can enforce it. They admit that above 20km per hour tyre noise is sufficient to alert pedestrians and below 20km per hour, well excuse me but if you hit a pedestrian below 20 km per hour your not paying attention. Even at low speeds rolling resistance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_resistance [wikipedia.org] is a measure of tyre flex, hence abrasion and noise.
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Re:Yeah i was thinking about that. (Score:3, Interesting)
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Re:Yeah i was thinking about that. (Score:4, Interesting)
+1 Harrison Bergeron.
Really though, precisely how loud is NY City without auto noise? It might just be a rustle of footsteps, but fairly quiet and peaceful.
Maybe it would stop crime because you can hear someone holler when a purse gets snatched.
Re:Forget that (Score:4, Interesting)