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The French Government Can Now Censor the Internet 419

Psychophrenes writes "A new episode in French internet legislation — French ministers have passed a bill (original in French) allowing the government to add any website to a black list, which access providers will have to enforce. This black list will be defined by the government only, without requiring the intervention of the legal system. Although originally intended against pedo-pornographic websites, this bill is already outdated, as was Hadopi in its time, and instead paves the way for a global censorship of the 'French internet.'"
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The French Government Can Now Censor the Internet

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  • Re:Business as usual (Score:3, Informative)

    by blueg3 ( 192743 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @03:29PM (#34577988)

    In the U.S., we don't get health care from the government. We don't even get health insurance from the government, unless you fall under Medicare or Medicaid.

  • by Baldur_of_Asgard ( 854321 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @03:37PM (#34578118)

    Once again a western government uses the drummed-up fear of pedophiles as a stalking horse to eradicate human liberty. The damnedest thing is that pedophiles are about as peaceful a group of people as can be found - but I suppose that is why the government has chosen this target. It's harder to crack down on minorities who are inclined and strong enough to strike back.

    It's easier to hire the angry people to put down the peaceful people than the other way around, and get the angry people to accept the loss of freedom as "necessary" to the struggle.

    A few facts about the bête noire du jour. [b4uact.org] Remember, the loss of your freedom depends on the people never learning the truth ... at least, until it is too late.

  • by netsavior ( 627338 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @03:38PM (#34578142)
    Only with Drugs. The FDA, HHS, and DEA have this exact power [wikipedia.org], completely unchecked by the legal system to basically make laws on the fly about individual substances by changing their classification.
    If they wanted to make Asprin a felony tomorrow, they could... and stores would have to comply in a hurry. It is not subject to Judicial review

    Although on the surface it would seem like the two have not much to do with each other, drug convictions are a great way to imprison people and deny them their right to vote, which is perhaps more powerful than merely limiting free speech online.
  • by Kilobug ( 213978 ) <le-mig_g@@@epita...fr> on Thursday December 16, 2010 @04:18PM (#34578872)

    As terrible as the news is, there is still hope. The law isn't passed yet. The article was voted in the National Assembly (lower chamber). It still requires, before being a valid law :

    1. A vote on the law as a whole in the lower chamber.

    2. A vote on the article in the upper chamber (Senate).

    3. A vote on the law as a whole in the upper chamber.

    4. If the two versions are different, even a coma apart (which is almost always the case), a full new vote on each of the chambers.

    5. A validation by the Constitutional Council.

    Points 1. and 3. are very likely to succeed, saddly. But point 2., the vote on the article in the upper chamber can reasonably change the law, adding a validation by a judge for example. The UMP (Sarkozy's party) doesn't have absolute majority in the Senate, so they need to compromise with the center-right which may obtain that.

    And then the validation by the Constitutional Council is unlikely, they censored the HADOPI (three-strike law for "illegal downloading"), stating clearly that Internet in the XXIest century is protected by the article 11 of the Declaration of Humans and Citizen Rights (which is part of our Constitution) : The free communication of thoughts and of opinions is one of the most precious rights of man: any citizen thus may speak, write, print freely, save [if it is necessary] to respond to the abuse of this liberty, in the cases determined by the law. , their interpretation being that abuse of this liberty, in the cases determined by the law can only be confirmed by a court after due legal process. It would surprise me for them to turn back on this stance, and allow Internet censorship without decision of a court.

    But since the UMP has more friends than foes in the Constitutional Council, and that it is to protect the children will they will validate it :(

    But anyway, it's still not a lost battle, and we are still fighting against the law.

  • It's not just France (Score:5, Informative)

    by Adrian Lopez ( 2615 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @04:36PM (#34579224) Homepage

    It's not just France, though. There's also the Great Firewall of China, the Great Australian Firewall, the US Department of Homeland Security shutting down domains (with COICA in the works to make take-downs even easier), and probably others I'm not aware of.

    The Internet was a nice experiment in global freedom of expression, but now that governments are catching up those freedoms are beginning to disappear.

  • Re:france sucks (Score:5, Informative)

    by CohibaVancouver ( 864662 ) on Thursday December 16, 2010 @05:55PM (#34580524)
    My point is that, as a Canadian, I don't really care if people who live in the USA call themselves "American." It's the generally-agreed upon term. I'm not refusing to call myself "American" because of some insecurity complex or because I'm on some high horse - I'm simply not going to call myself "American" because it's not the correct term to describe a Canadian or Mexican. If you live in North America, you're Canadian, American or Mexican. That's just how it is.
  • Re:france sucks (Score:4, Informative)

    by Asic Eng ( 193332 ) on Friday December 17, 2010 @01:28AM (#34584278)
    Actually gun ownership is legal in France and many other European countries. In France gun ownership is a right (though not an unrestricted right) but not having a right to arms doesn't mean it's forbidden or that it would necessarily be difficult to legally own one. (E.g. join a shooting club in Germany or get a license from the police in Italy.)

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