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Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans' Real Time Credit Card Activity 299

PatPending writes "A 10-page Powerpoint presentation (PDF) that security and privacy analyst Christopher Soghoian recently obtained through a Freedom of Information Act Request to the Department of Justice reveals that law enforcement agencies routinely seek and obtain real-time surveillance of credit card transactions. The government's guidelines reveal that this surveillance often occurs with a simple subpoena, thus sidestepping any Fourth Amendment protections."
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Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans' Real Time Credit Card Activity

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  • what do you expect? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by circletimessquare ( 444983 ) <circletimessquar ... m minus language> on Friday December 03, 2010 @03:15PM (#34435294) Homepage Journal

    when you use an electronic network, your default assumption should be that anything communicated on it will be snooped on, backed up as data, and exploited. this applies to the internet as much as using your credit card

    if you don't like that, use cash

    but don't depend upon the government... to protect you from the government. that's absurd. besides, its not only the government that does this, all sorts of unscrupulous activity goes on with your data outside their purview. and i'm not talking about hackers and criminals and mafia. i'm talking about the merchants themselves: they freely offer your info up for advertising and data mining and targeted offers and other intrusive purposes. you know this already. facebook does the same thing. you are basically giving facebook the means to exploit you when you use facebook

    there's money to be made in taking advantage of your data. so why do you think rules will ever be passed against the exploitation of your data, and even if there were rules made about that, why do you expect the players to respect those rules? so don't feed your data to the beast

    don't depend upon the government to protect you from the government

    don't depend upon corporations to protect you from corporations

    depend upon YOURSELF and alter your own behavior

    use cash. and stop blabbing about your social life to a beast which exists for the expressed business purpose to take your info and use it to market, track, and otherwise deny you your privacy. if you continue to use facebook, and you know that, THEN YOU ONLY HAVE YOURSELF TO BLAME

    but if it's too inconvenient for you to stop using facebook and credit cards, then stop complaining, because that lack of effort on your part reveals how unimportant to you these concerns really are to you. sure, you'll cry high holy indignation here on slashdot, but you won't change your behavior will you? lots of people talk a good game, and back it up with no action whatsoever

    so either you are horrified that the feds know what you buy at the grocery store, or you don't. put your money where your mouth is, and take responsibility for your privacy. if you put it on a network, whether facebook, or using your credit card, you WILL be violated and exploited. now you know. so choose. its as simple as that

    but don't look at the exploiters as your protectors or express surprise when they do what already know they will do. it's absurd to expect privacy on a network. so stop being surprised when you find out you don't have any

  • by pspahn ( 1175617 ) on Friday December 03, 2010 @03:59PM (#34436134)

    37%, 10%, 100%, completely irrelevant if elected officials actually did the things people want them to do. If someone wins with 37%, well that's great and all, but that doesn't mean that the other 63% are going to disagree with everything that person does. There is too much importance placed on the election, and very little importance placed on what the elected subsequently do.

    I vote third party precisely because I want to siphon votes away from either a Demican or a Republocrat. There is no "lesser of two evils". They are both equally shitty.

  • by moeinvt ( 851793 ) on Friday December 03, 2010 @05:14PM (#34437322)

    If I understand your argument correctly, you're saying that a law enforcement officer can, with NO search warrant, and with no intervention whatsoever by a court:

    - Track every credit card purchase that I've ever made up to the present moment
    - Search through the history of transactions I've made at my local library
    - See records of all of my telephone calls
    - view my accountant's copy of all of my tax records
    - review any and all personal correspondences that I've sent to friends
    - see my complete transaction history at my bank
    - review all of the stock/bond transactions that I've made with my broker. ...

    I certainly hope that no court would subscribe to your bizarre interpretation of the Fourth Amendement.

  • by fyngyrz ( 762201 ) on Friday December 03, 2010 @07:37PM (#34439204) Homepage Journal

    Or your "cold meds" example. OK, some database somewhere knows that I bought cold meds. So? I've yet to see a single targeted ad for cold meds, and even if I did... how does that actually hurt me?

    Step 1: Buy a bottle of original NyQuil from a pharmacy
    Step 2: Drive across town.
    Step 3: Buy another bottle of original NyQuil from different pharmacy
    Step 4: Learn how it hurts you

    The answer, to save you the trouble, is you get arrested, you pay bail (if you can), you pay lawyers (if you can... if you can't, you're going to jail for a long time, because you're now an easy notch on some prosecutor's stick.) You meth-head, you.

    "Oh, but I would never do that"

    There are other things, and combinations of things, that can get you a serious, guns-pulled, door-breaking visit from your local gendarmes. Even trying to buy an Erlenmeyer flask or glass tubing can do it in some jurisdictions. Odds are hugely in favor of you having done these things innocently. That won't reduce your legal bills, though.

    It's worth looking into.

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