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DDoS From 4chan Hits MPAA and Anti-Piracy Website 318

Posted by Soulskill
from the wonder-how-much-piracy-went-unaddressed-while-they-were-down dept.
ACKyushu writes "Say what you like about 4chan; when they want something done, it gets done. Following a call to arms yesterday, the masses inhabiting the anonymous 4chan boards have carried out a huge assault on a pair of anti-piracy enemies. The website of Aiplex Software, the anti-piracy outfit which has been DDoSing torrent sites recently, fell victim to a DDoS itself. They were joined in the Internet wasteland by the MPAA's website, which also fell to a huge and sustained attack."
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DDoS From 4chan Hits MPAA and Anti-Piracy Website

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  • Does anyone care? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Zironic (1112127) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @05:03PM (#33622514)

    Oh noes their website went down for a few hours, that's sure to stop all of their operations! Or not...

  • counterproductive (Score:4, Insightful)

    by TheSHAD0W (258774) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @05:04PM (#33622522) Homepage

    I think neither the MPAA nor Aiplex really care about about their websites getting knocked down; if anything, it gives them more publicity and lets them generate additional FUD about the dreaded "pirates". If anonymous members can't target more essential parts of their business with their attacks, they shouldn't bother.

  • bring it on! (Score:0, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 18, 2010 @05:06PM (#33622536)

    nice work.

  • by Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @05:08PM (#33622558)

    I think neither the MPAA nor Aiplex really care about about their websites getting knocked down; if anything, it gives them more publicity and lets them generate additional FUD about the dreaded "pirates". If anonymous members can't target more essential parts of their business with their attacks, they shouldn't bother.

    I doubt that is the kind of publicity the MAFIAA seeks.
    4CHAN isn't just attacking their websites - they are mimicing the MAFIAA.
    If DOS'ing a website is wrong then why is Aiplex Software, a proxy of the MAFIAA, doing it too?

  • by kimvette (919543) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @05:10PM (#33622572) Homepage Journal

    . . . because he who has the deepest pockets and slimiest lawyers win!

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 18, 2010 @05:12PM (#33622582)

    I think neither the MPAA nor Aiplex really care about about their websites getting knocked down; if anything, it gives them more publicity and lets them generate additional FUD about the dreaded "pirates". If anonymous members can't target more essential parts of their business with their attacks, they shouldn't bother.

    If 4chan manages to DDOS the official sites of the upcoming and just-out movies produced by MPAA members, they'll be hurt pretty badly. All of their ads, TV, web, printed, and so on, point to these sites.

    So DDOS van be a viable weapon, if that's how MPAA wants business done.

  • by DurendalMac (736637) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @05:18PM (#33622610)
    Um...no. Most people don't give a crap about the website. They see the preview, the poster, and buy a ticket. On top of that, it's not like they can't get the trailer via Youtube if the site is down, assuming they would even go to that site for those few hours.

    DDoSing a movie site would do diddly squat to the bottom line.
  • by gman003 (1693318) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @05:25PM (#33622668)
    It would still be more effective than DDoSing the MPAA site.
  • Re:Well (Score:5, Insightful)

    by DurendalMac (736637) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @05:32PM (#33622712)
    Are you really this STUPID? Can 4chan muster hordes of lawyers and effectively lobby congress? Anonymous is far too shortsighted to have any kind of lasting impact here. You're apparently one of them. A DDoS that brings their site down is nothing. It gives them more ammo to use against piracy when they lobby congress. 4chan isn't capable of more. They're rarely capable of anything in the real world, and that's where the RIAA and MPAA are hurting people.

    This is nothing. This is a "moral" victory for idiots who need to feel important online because they don't know how to do that in the real world.
  • by bertoelcon (1557907) * <berto.el.conNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Saturday September 18, 2010 @05:33PM (#33622720)

    If anonymous members can't target more essential parts of their business with their attacks, they shouldn't bother.

    So should they do black faxes then?

  • Re:Awesome.. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ifiwereasculptor (1870574) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @05:39PM (#33622752)
    That's the beauty of corporations. You can never trouble them with protests. You merely trouble their employees. Likewise, you cannot imprison them, for they do not actually exist.
  • "Anti-piracy?" (Score:5, Insightful)

    by seeker_1us (1203072) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @05:40PM (#33622760)

    I wouldn't call the MPAA "Anti-Piracy."

    THEY would call themselves "anti-piracy" but they actually lobby for legislation that gives them control over content beyond what copyright law allows, in order to reap greater profits. They also try to lock down and control content delivery mechanisms and channels in order to maintain a monopoly.

    Not really an "anti-piracy" group.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 18, 2010 @05:42PM (#33622766)

    The greatest power is in convincing others they don't have any.

    You have already lost.

  • Re:And now... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by larry bagina (561269) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @05:48PM (#33622806) Journal
    Your IP address is exposed with every tcp connection you make and (by default in most web servers) logged with every http request you make.
  • Arms race, anyone? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by istartedi (132515) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @06:07PM (#33622912) Journal

    The only winners in an arms race are the arms dealers. In this case, that'd be bandwidth providers, security specialists, anybody who "helps" you in your attempt to win the fight.

  • Re:Awesome.. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by couchslug (175151) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @06:17PM (#33622952)

    "Ddosers likely think that they are attacking the big corporate giants but instead it's just the network admins who get all the shit and still desperately try to keep the sites up."

    The servant of an enemy is still an enemy.

  • by TheGratefulNet (143330) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @06:43PM (#33623070)

    quoted from 'aiplex':

    Solution

    To eradicate piracy at its best possible, we strategically follow some of the best practices outlined below;

    Finding the links of the unauthorized content using appropriate software which co-relates the copyright / licensed material in any given format.

    Our 24/7 net vigilance agents & customer support team will have a rigorous check on video sharing communities and perform regular scrutiny for copyright deviation.

    A list of leading 159 video sharing communities where videos in any forms are uploaded will be on a rigorous check for any new uploads.

    We shall approach the service provider with the authenticated links of the pirated products being uploaded & appeal them to remove the content/file by issuing legal notice / request letter for violation of copyrights.

    Our 24/7 support team would also prevent the damage by issuing instant legal notices to the service provider & block the account for deviating copy right laws.

    wtf?? I mean, they seem like kids or something. not very good english for an 'official' net-sheriff (oops, that was another clown on teh intertubes, pardon me).

    I'm not impressed. sorry.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 18, 2010 @06:56PM (#33623122)

    I wish I could mobilize 4chan dwellers and /b/tards in particular to go out and vote for their national Pirate Party come election time, but it appears the vast majority haven't reached the age of maturity yet...

  • Re:And now... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by matthewv789 (1803086) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @07:03PM (#33623158)

    I notice that the MPAA site has a "Report Piracy" form at http://www.mpaa.org/contentprotection/report-piracy [mpaa.org].

    As a member of the society that has granted copyright holders their limited, temporarily monopolistic usage rights, I am at this moment reporting the misappropriation of the terms "theft", "ownership" and "property" with respect to these rights and the content they cover. (They are violations because copyright is a social contract between creators of intellectual property and society, and any contract has two sides. The MPAA et al are violating their side of the contract.) I discovered these violations on their very website! Anyone else want to complain?

  • Re:Awesome.. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by hedwards (940851) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @07:11PM (#33623210)
    Isn't that a compelling reason why they shouldn't have any rights under the constitution?
  • Re:On a Saturday? (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 18, 2010 @07:24PM (#33623278)

    Kids are in school during the week.

  • by Runaway1956 (1322357) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @07:48PM (#33623404) Homepage Journal
    One of the first things I saw was this: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-69-172-200-0-1 [arin.net] Network NetRange 69.172.200.0 - 69.172.201.255 CIDR 69.172.200.0/23 Name PEER1-DOSARREST-01 Handle NET-69-172-200-0-1 Parent PEER1-BLK-14 (NET-69-172-192-0-1) Net Type Reassigned Origin AS AS13768 Nameservers Customer DosArrest (C02492651) Registration Date 2010-05-12 Last Updated 2010-05-12 Comments DDoS Protection services RESTful Link http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-69-172-200-0-1 [arin.net] (I know, I'll lose the formatting - just go to the link, alright?)
  • Re:And now... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by History's Coming To (1059484) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @07:52PM (#33623416) Journal
    Forget the web design, the copy is the real problem. Have you actually read it? It's like Dilbert's pointy haired boss on coke. This is dreadful pre-computer, let alone post internet. I refuse to believe it's actually a real site, more like a front set up by a 4chan member to drive traffic at an advert based IP for a few hours. Simples.
  • Re:Awesome.. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by shutdown -p now (807394) on Saturday September 18, 2010 @10:43PM (#33624234) Journal

    Yes, and when you vote with your wallet and refuse to buy the products of some corporation which you don't like - guess what, the people who get all the trouble (of a lower figure on their paychecks, or possibly even being laid off) are its employees! O horror!

    I honestly don't understand where this line is coming from. I work for a large and rather unpopular (around here, anyway) corporation. As such, I fully expect the flak it may receive from disgruntled customers - should there be enough of it - to be reflected on my paycheck, bonuses etc. After all, impressive profits that it makes every quarter are most certainly reflected that way, so that would only be fair. A share is fair when it's of everything that goes in, whether gold or shit.

    Same for MPAA admins. I've no idea if it's a high-paying job or not, but either way, the money they get doesn't materialize out of thin air - it is a result of MPAA business, and, more specifically, the business decisions that it makes. If one feels comfortable using such a pay source as a means of supporting themselves, they should also accept the strings attached to that paycheck.

  • by oiron (697563) on Sunday September 19, 2010 @12:02AM (#33624840) Homepage

    You had me laughing at "respectable"

  • by oiron (697563) on Sunday September 19, 2010 @02:14AM (#33625390) Homepage

    Buzzword compliance... Look at the rest of their site for some Dilbert-esque lulz

    People :

    Aiplex is staffed by a strong, coherent, and well-trained team of 100 plus people who have witnessed a sense of growth that is unparalleled in the industry. We have nurtured an atmosphere of teamwork, commitment, and accountability enabling the team to meet business demands consistently.

    You've just "witnessed" a "sense" of growth? In other words, you didn't actually grow, you just "witnessed" something that feels like growth... After truthiness, growthiness?

    They also seem to be into SEO; sounds like quite a sleazy company...

  • Dilbert said it... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by AliasMarlowe (1042386) on Sunday September 19, 2010 @05:26AM (#33626050) Journal
    Two wrongs, in special cases, can make a right (if they cancel each other properly).
    http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1999-02-07/ [dilbert.com]
  • Re:And now... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by daveime (1253762) on Sunday September 19, 2010 @08:14AM (#33626672)

    I'd like you to grow up and stop endorsing shitty behaviour like the MPAA outsourcing their scumbaggery to the 3rd world.

    The way to prevent copyright is through the legal system, NOT by employing fucking Indians to DDOS torrent servers.

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