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Wikileaks Now Hosted By the Swedish Pirate Party 438

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the i-voted-for-the-other-guy dept.
oskii writes "During his visit to the the Swedish capital Stockholm, Wikileaks spokesman Julian Assange has struck a deal with the local Pirate Party. The party, which participates in the national elections next month, will host several new Wikileaks servers to protect freedom of press and help the whistleblower site to carry out its operation."
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Wikileaks Now Hosted By the Swedish Pirate Party

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  • Nice move (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mmcuh (1088773) on Tuesday August 17, 2010 @04:38PM (#33280670)

    While it's a nice publicity stunt for the Pirate Party (with the Swedish elections coming up in little more than a month), WikiLeaks may also gain from it. Swedish politicians may well be pressured by the US government, or by others depending on what WikiLeaks publishes in the future, to close down those servers like they did with The Pirate Bay. But now that they are hosted by the Pirate Party that would be seen as a direct attack on a political opponent, with the obvious effects on public opinion. That will likely make them think twice before ordering a shutdown, which probably wasn't the case with The Pirate Bay.

    And yes, government representatives giving direct orders to police and prosecutors is illegal in Sweden. But in practice it happens all the time due to widespread patronage and cronyism and few legal checks against it.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by MBGMorden (803437)

      to close down those servers like they did with The Pirate Bay

      You know, I keep hearing about stories about the final nail in The Pirate Bay's coffin, but it's still there. The founders may have lost that suit, but I'm not believing a word of the stuff about TPB finally being killed until it's been offline for more than a month.

      • Re:Nice move (Score:5, Interesting)

        by mmcuh (1088773) on Tuesday August 17, 2010 @04:52PM (#33280870)

        Yes, The Pirate Bay was up and running again three days after that raid, and still is, and probably will be for the forseeable future. But the prosecutor _did_ raid their web hosting company, take their computers and dozens of other ones that just happened to be in the same room, and kept them for years, long after the time it could have taken the police to mirror the data. That's what I meant.

        TPB had the resources and contacts to enable them to just copy their backups to other computers around the world and get the site running again, and I'm sure that WikiLeaks too have lots of hidden backup servers and hidden backup people to run them. Probably lots more than TPB. That doesn't mean that their enemies in e.g. the Pentagon will not try to close them down, one by one.

    • by spyfrog (552673)

      Yep - now they will wait to shut down any servers before the third sunday in september...
      After that all bets are off. Look how they strategically placed the TPB trail after the election.

  • by Zeek40 (1017978) on Tuesday August 17, 2010 @04:40PM (#33280708)
    Looks like the RIAA finally got that army of copyright enforcers they've been looking for.
  • ....Julian Assange has officially changed his name to Captain Hook.
  • Whistleblower?? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by johnlcallaway (165670)
    You mean media whore....

    A whistle blower would go through the data and make a something that at least resembles a case. He doesn't want to do any real work, like analyze the data, strip out names to protect innocent parties, or provide only truly relevant data. Instead, he prefers to vomit data and let other people make sense of it.

    Assange suffers from attention deficit disorder .. he gets upset when he isn't getting enough attention.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      So, you'd rather he bias whatever documents are leaked to his organization with his own personal views and analysis? I thought one of the defining creeds of slashdot was open and free data. If Assange posted nothing more than a personal analysis of the documents he's leaked, he'd be criticized for keeping secrets from the public and letting his personal bias take over objective analysis. It would be that whole stupid climate-gate scandal thing all over again.
    • Re:Whistleblower?? (Score:5, Informative)

      by zero0ne (1309517) on Tuesday August 17, 2010 @05:16PM (#33281168) Journal

      He isn't a "whistle blower" by any means... he is simply providing a service FOR whistle blowers to anonymously release their information to the world.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Thus explaining why they have spent the past few months pouring through the documents that major newspapers indicated could contain the names of civilians, and removing those names. And why they asked for the Pentagon, who undoubtedly knows which documents contain those names, to assist them.

      Yup, they don't care.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by johnlcallaway (165670)
        I seem to recall him stating something along the lines that 'if those that criticize me aren't going to help, then I'll just publish whatever I want to'.

        I still feel his only concern is his public image and how much attention he gets. When he starts to publish documents that show how many civilians have died because Taliban and others house themselves with civilians and refuse to conform to anything in the Geneva Convention, then we will know he doesn't have an agenda to push and is truly a whistle blowe
    • by BitZtream (692029)

      I love how people get modded down for pointing out the obvious.

  • by budgenator (254554) on Tuesday August 17, 2010 @05:07PM (#33281064) Journal

    It's obvious to me that by aligning with a particular political party, Wikileaks is publicly announcing the abandonment of any semblance of editorial neutrality. Their Noble effort to bring additional transparency to the world is now forever tainted.

    • by miffo.swe (547642) <daniel.hedblom@gmai l . com> on Tuesday August 17, 2010 @05:42PM (#33281536) Homepage Journal

      If you take a quick gander at The Pirate Party you soon discover they are very nicely aligned with free speech activists all over the world. Their only goal is free flow of information without restrictions.

      I guess if you consider free speech a bad thing it may be a sad day, join the complaint department along with china, north korea and the rest of the fine states agains free speech.

    • by Kepesk (1093871)
      I don't think so. The particular political party the aligned themselves with was one that formed, among other reasons, to protect the uptime of legally-questionable and constantly-threatened servers. Sound familiar? This makes a lot of sense to me.
  • At one point I held onto the romantic, idealistic hope that a Pirate Party could take hold here in the U.S. eventually. I think this publicity stunt will effectively keep that from happening.If a PP on American soil starts to gain any ground, they are going to be immediately lambasted and hung out to dry as terrorist supporting, anti-American, extremists because, hey, look, the Swedish branch helped embarrass the U.S. Military.

    Ah well, time to start looking for a new source of hope in the States.
  • Awesome (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Etcetera (14711) on Tuesday August 17, 2010 @05:20PM (#33281248) Homepage

    Now we have someone to bomb! /kidding

    Well... /halfkidding

    By aligning itself with a political movement, we now have a political entity of a foreign state aiding and abetting our enemies. I don't think we're going to be invading Sweden any time soon, but now we have someone to yell at when people are killed thanks to this info getting leaked out. Heckuvajob, Swedes... the Afghan informants' blood is on your hands now!

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by miffo.swe (547642)

      Youve got it wrong. The Afghan informants blood is on US military that does an half assed job of protecting their informants. Do you seriously beleive this is the only leak of this and other sensitive information? Spies didnt suddenly become unemployed last month you know.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      the Afghan informants' blood is on your hands now!

      More then 30.000 civilians, many of them kids, died in Afghanistan and many more are seriously wounded since the beginning of occupation. If anybody could handle THAT blood on his hands, Swedes will handle their tiny part you mentioned quite comfortably, I guess.
  • A while back, in a post on a previous thread regarding Julian Assange shortly after the Afghanistan files were leaked, I posited the question, "Why is Julian Assange still alive?".

    I had assumed that if he did indeed have dirt on the US military establishment he would be pushing up daisies in some backwoods of Virginia.

    Now I know that he is simply a very cautious, very smart player that is using EVERYTHING at his disposal to protect himself and what he does. The people he is aligning himself with are NOT idi

  • From every mountain top let freedom ring! Freedom of information needs to be ringing out more than most other freedoms. I only hope the folks at Wikileaks and in the Pirate Party are safe from the more sinister forces that might be put upon them.

  • PRQ - the network cum ISP created to serve the Pirate Bay (and still doing so) - has been hosting much of Wikileaks since 2008. [foxnews.com]

    Lots of people give the Pirate Bay guys shit for being a bunch of thieves hiding behind big words, but when it comes down to it, they walk the walk too. A lot more so than the MAFIAA has.

  • by vinsci (537958) on Tuesday August 17, 2010 @05:46PM (#33281608) Journal

    An interesting question & answer chat with Julian Assange, who founded WikiLeaks [www.dn.se] was published (in English) by Dagens Nyheter, the biggest morning newspaper in Sweden, today.

    It gives some insight into his thinking as well as the seriousness of their task — two of their contributors have already been assassinated.

  • by shadowofwind (1209890) on Tuesday August 17, 2010 @05:48PM (#33281644)

    I wish the 'Pirate Party' would stop calling itself that. Piracy is seriously wrong - there's nothing glamorous about it. By equating song and movie downloading with piracy, they surrender the argument to those who say they're a bunch of thieves.

    And wikileaks should have been more careful about what they leaked. Their sloppiness doesn't help the cause of peace, freedom, or justice either.

    Now that the pirates and leakers have combined forces, the mud on one will stick to to the other. Aside from the heightened press attention for the pirate party, I can't see how that's good. And the heightened press attention will be bad if the real message doesn't get out.

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