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Tech Specs Leaked For French Spyware 212

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the i-see-what-you-did-there dept.
An anonymous reader writes "With the 'three strikes' law now in effect in France, the organization tasked with implementing it, Hadopi, has been working on technology specs for making the process work — and those specs have now leaked. It appears to involve client-side monitoring and controlling software, that would try to watch what you were doing online, and even warn you before you used any P2P protocol (must make Skype phone calls fun). It's hard to believe people will accept this kind of thing being installed on their computers, so I can't wait to see how Hadopi moves forward with it. It also appears to violate EU rules on privacy."
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Tech Specs Leaked For French Spyware

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  • by McTickles (1812316) on Thursday August 05, 2010 @11:44AM (#33151520)
    In France your ISP (well 99% of them) provide you with a preconfigured modem/routeur that they call a "box". This box handles IPTV and VoIP too. IPTV and VoIP depends on specs often known only to the ISP and therefore it is hard to find a compatible modem/routeur of your own, forcing you to use the ISP's if you want to use VoIP and IPTV (which is actually forced upon you as part of most ISP's basic package, it is difficult to get a truly IP-only connection here for a reasonable price, IP+VoIP+IPTV is actually cheaper than just IP) The long term plan is for all ISPs to agree on some basic standards for their "box" and the filtering software/spyware would be implemented on the "box" thus making it "unavoidable". Most people won't notice (don't get me started on how completely technically illiterate people are even allowed to connect to the network) the firmware update (they already don't as it is and most rely on basic out of the box settings) and blacklist updates and so on. Thank you ISPs who catter to technical morons and thanks to the french government for basically planning to introduce a mandatory in-your-home wiretap for everyone, guilty or not.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 05, 2010 @11:55AM (#33151600)

    Here: http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Jun/346

    A group reversed engineered the software and wrote up a small review/paper on it. Apparently, it's easily hacked, buggy and has one hell of a weak link for being a botnet.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 05, 2010 @12:21PM (#33151906)

    Since FreeBSD is my desktop, I'll have no problems

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 05, 2010 @01:12PM (#33152614)

    France was also the country where scuba diving took off first in the general public (it used to be strictly military). The patent for the demand regulator was from Cousteau (ze one ;) & Gagnan, the World Underwater Federation (http://www.cmas.org/) has a French acronym because it was founded by the same gang that made scuba diving popular in France.

    And at the time, the equipment was nowhere near as good as today. And the experience was lacking, or limited to very fit young military guys... so not immediately applicable to some less fit people. Diving was also not a commercial activity (where the business have a vested interest in making sure there's no problem), it was and still is in France largely handled by non-profit clubs. Who attracted adventurers at the time, less concerned about risk. So all this led to accident, who got the attention of authorities, who legislated to limit the worst abuse and make sure people had a proper training. All that scuba club do today in other countries.

    As for what this scuba police is... I guess a cop fond of scuba diving found a trick to be paid to do what he liked ;)

  • Re:Well, I live here (Score:4, Informative)

    by qbast (1265706) on Thursday August 05, 2010 @01:31PM (#33152916)

    And I sure as hell won't allow them to install any of that stuff here.

    What are they going to do if I refuse? Throw me in jail? Fine me? "

    No, just disable your internet connection until you do. What's the problem?

  • by broknstrngz (1616893) on Thursday August 05, 2010 @01:34PM (#33152974)
    They're pretty naive. For instance, they call ANY USB dongle, be it memory stick, Bluetooth dongle, HASP key, HSDPA/3G modem, a "key" (clé). They're also pretty much in the same shelf in their retail stores (FNAC/Darty). I've been living in France since January so I've had enough time to observe them. Their lack of interest for all things IT is troubling. Sure, they do have an elite, but the overall apetite for technology is surprisingly low. Must be the wine, I guess :)
  • by Raenex (947668) on Thursday August 05, 2010 @02:07PM (#33153400)

    If encryption approached "Facebook levels of popularity", governments who want to monitor your traffic will simply make encryption illegal.

    At one point, encryption used to be illegal in France: http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/01/15/france_to_end_severe_encryption/ [theregister.co.uk]

  • Actually no (Score:4, Informative)

    by Nicolas MONNET (4727) <nicoaltiva@@@gmail...com> on Thursday August 05, 2010 @03:10PM (#33154182) Journal

    This as yet non-existent, and obviously impossible piece of software will merely be the only way to disculpate oneself from accusations illegal warezing. Since it obviously reverses the burden of proof, it's unlikely to stand up to legal scrutiny whem it reaches a high court.

    Note that, not only are the technical specs moronic, but they also are self defeating. For instance they want a FLOSS compatible version. Well, guess what, my Linux kernel license allows me to change it so that it will hide whatever I want from a given process. This is typically done by rootkits that hide their processes/files/modules from the rest of the system, but it should be quite easy to implement for the good guys.

    In any case, as had been pointed out during the debates in parliament, you just need to do your downloading on a separate box, and not tell anyone about it. Sarkonazy's lapdog's response? "people onlh have one computer" - I shit. You. Not.

    I keep a very expensive bottle of Champagne at all times in my fridge, just in case something humiliating and/or painful happens to the diminutive fascist son of a bitch. And if the fucker dies before the next election, I swear I'm ordering 12 case of Dom Pe to give away in the street.

  • by daveime (1253762) on Thursday August 05, 2010 @06:03PM (#33155834)

    Not to worry, once you install anything else, it won't be a pristine Linux install anyway.

    pristine/pristn/Adjective
    1. In its original condition; unspoiled.
    2. Clean and fresh as if new; spotless.

  • by John Hasler (414242) on Thursday August 05, 2010 @06:25PM (#33156034) Homepage

    > I'm curious to see how they intend to make that work out.

    By making it not incompatible with Firefox.

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