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Arrests For Selling Poison-Ware In Spain 178

An anonymous reader writes "Spain's FBI equivalent has arrested the management of a software company (Google translation; Spanish original) for selling custom software to small and medium-sized businesses with 'controlled errors' that resulted in the software bombing on a predetermined date. They would then charge for fixing the problem and press the client into buying a maintenance contract. More than 1,000 clients were affected."
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Arrests For Selling Poison-Ware In Spain

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  • Re:Shenanigans! (Score:2, Informative)

    by Stoutlimb ( 143245 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @09:21PM (#32660614)

    That kind of thing has been happening for generations, where have you been?. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence [wikipedia.org]

  • by Ungrounded Lightning ( 62228 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @09:37PM (#32660726) Journal

    [Planned obsolescence] has been happening for generations, where have you been?

    It's not always ENTIRELY shenanigans.

    For instance: The "design lifetime" in the auto industry is not just about selling another car. It's also about not spending a lot of extra money making, say, the transmission good for 750,000 miles when several other major systems are going to go out at a small fraction of that time. (When you're making several million units a year, saving a nickel each adds up to enough to hire two more full-time engineers to figure out how to do it.)

    Making mechanical parts that last can be tough and costly. (And half a century ago it was a lot tougher, without the major advances in materials science since then.) If you design all the parts to last for at least some design lifetime and not much longer you can accumulate a lot of savings. If some major system was going to unavoidably fail shortly after that design lifetime anyhow, having the rest not good for much longer doesn't appreciably affect the utility of the vehicle for the consumer. But the cost savings can be used to lower the price (and grab market share, for a net profit increase) - which DOES help him out significantly.

    The ideal in the limit is the "Preacher's marvelous one-horse shay, which lasted a hundred years and all fell apart on the very same day."

  • by Joe The Dragon ( 967727 ) on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @10:00PM (#32660878)

    some cars have oil change light that only dealer can trun off. But there are other laws that stop the them going to far.

    Just wait for the AIR force to get shut off and then this carp will die fast and some may go hidden jail.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @10:18PM (#32660976)

    The company is CIPSA, is mentionend on the GDT news: https://www.gdt.guardiacivil.es/webgdt [guardiacivil.es] at the bottom of the page, under "Detenidos los responsables de comercializar software con "bombas lógicas"

  • Re:Microsoft (Score:5, Informative)

    by theshowmecanuck ( 703852 ) on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @03:43AM (#32662442) Journal
    I call bullshit. For one, I was involved in Y2K related work for businesses that would have failed if their systems were not upgraded, namely the main enterprise business systems for daily newspapers (their circulation systems); for prepaid and wholesale (single copy) sales. And that included almost every newspaper in North America, and many overseas (not that our company worked on every newspaper's system, but considering there are not that many circ system software solutions, and they pretty much all had Y2K issues...). As well, the dot com bubble didn't burst until at least January 2000 which means that the Y2K issue was sorted out or companies were out of business before the dot com people were out of work. As well, the dot com people thrown out of work were mostly web developers, and the Y2K issue affected server side, and often COBOL related software... not exactly in the dot com programming skills bag. The company I worked for by the way provided a non-COBOL replacement system to fix our clients Y2K... complete new system instead of patching the existing system. I don't know where this 'myth of the Y2K' came about, but it seems to yet another conspiracy theory. I haven't seen or heard of one Y2K fix being worked on that wasn't solving a real critical issue. You're not a 'truther' or 'birther' by any chance too?
  • by kikito ( 971480 ) on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @06:03AM (#32663012) Homepage

    First of all: No Spanish worker will call his boss "sir". That's very much anti-Spanish. Just to give you an example: a recent unofficial competition asked Spanish people to come up with lyrics for the Spanish national Anthem (which is lyric-less). One of the candidates had the following text:

    "Un jefe muy cabrón / soy un buen español"

    Which translates to:

    "A very bastard boss / I'm a good Spanish citizen"

    Also, we use expletives when giving/receiving bad news. They are solely lacking on your text.

  • by KiloByte ( 825081 ) on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @06:09AM (#32663028)

    In this case, the one who wrote that. And I don't mean just readability by novices.

    *(&z + z) -- unless it's C++, this makes sense only for referring to the zth next variable after z. Like: int z, a, b, c; -- z=1 will select a, z=2 will select b, z=3 will select c. In an old compiler, this will always work. In an optimizing one, it's damn likely to break.

    Mixing dec and hex numbers, and writing down constants for bit operations using decimal numbers in general is prone to mistakes.
    So is using addition in an expression that consist mostly of bit operations, you want | there instead.

    0x8F is a complex mask, it definitely should be a #define with a name. There's nothing wrong with masks like 0x7F or 0x1F, but for 0x8F, it's not obvious enough.

    ~(~t11) -- uhm, what's the point?

    With these issues fixed, though, with a bit of comments such a code isn't that bad.

  • Re:Nice (Score:4, Informative)

    by mcoca ( 264601 ) on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @06:10AM (#32663034)

    The people were charged because it was a criminal case. Had it been a civil action, they would have gone after the company. Pretty sure it's the same in the US.

  • Re:Shenanigans! (Score:3, Informative)

    by zwarte piet ( 1023413 ) on Wednesday June 23, 2010 @07:07AM (#32663256)
    There is a story of Henry Ford sending out employees to look on the salvage yards for Ford cars and write down wich parts would still be in excellent shape. If that happend too often for a certain part he knew he could use cheaper materials for that part in new cars.
  • I'd like to call shenanigans on that one. Every car I've owned (GM, VW, Honda, Ford) has pointed out in the owner's manual in clear text how to turn the light off. Usually, you push some button or series of buttons that will turn that light off.

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