A New Libel Defense In Canada; For Blogs Too 146
roju writes "The Globe and Mail reports that the Canadian Supreme Court has created a new defense against claims of defamation, allowing for reporting in the public interest. They specifically included bloggers as eligible, writing: '...the traditional media are rapidly being complemented by new ways of communicating on matters of public interest, many of them online, which do not involve journalists. These new disseminators of news and information should, absent good reasons for exclusion, be subject to the same laws as established media outlets.' and 'A review of recent defamation case law suggests that many actions now concern blog postings and other online media which are potentially both more ephemeral and more ubiquitous than traditional print media. ... [I]t is more accurate to refer to the new defense as responsible communication on matters of public interest.'"
Geist's coverage (Score:5, Informative)
Michael Geist also covers this [michaelgeist.ca], writing "This is crucial decision for all publishers both big and small. It represents a major win for freedom of expression in Canada and should remove some of the libel chill that arises far too frequently."
Re:More ephemeral? (Score:3, Informative)
I don't see why you'd need something like this (Score:5, Informative)
I mean there really shouldn't be some special exception saying "It is ok to slander/libel someone in certain situations." No, it shouldn't be allowed. I think the US has pretty sensible libel laws. In particular, there are three defenses:
1) The truth. If what you wrote was true, no matter how damaging, it's not libel. Libel is only untrue statements. So as long as you are telling the truth you can post it for whatever reasons you like, regardless of the harm it causes and have no worry about a successful libel suit.
2) Belief that it is true. If you reasonably believe what you are writing is true, that is also a defense against libel. So if a newspaper publishes a story based on good information that turns out to be false, it isn't libel. They reasonably believed it to be true.
3) No intent to cause harm. The final defense against libel is if you didn't intend for the statements to cause harm. This is generally in the case of satire and the like. If you are writing something you know to be false, but doing so in a way as to poke fun at someone, it isn't libel.
So the only way something is libel is if it is false, you know (or reasonably should know) it is false, and you write it anyhow with the intent of causing harm to your target.
To me, seems pretty reasonable and doesn't seem like any special protections are needed.
No. (Score:4, Informative)
In theory, you could concoct a large amount of fake evidence to prove this to the courts, but a) it's not easy b) you'd have to convince them that the other plain was lying when he says you didn't contact him c) it's highly illegal (in Canada, the maximum prison term for perjury is fourteen years) d) the same would be possible without this new defence.
Re:This doesn't help (Score:5, Informative)
A member of the House of Lords is preparing a bill that would, among other things, require foreigners to demonstrate that they have suffered actual harm in England before they can sue there.
They don't like being known for libel tourism.
Defamation law in Canada (Score:5, Informative)
Long story short: prove someone defamed you (defamatory, towards you, published), they're presumed guilty, with onus shifting. To defend themselves, they must prove either 1) the statements were absolutely privileged (from court or parliamentary testimony or documentation); 2) the statements enjoyed qualified p
Re:This doesn't help (Score:2, Informative)
Unless I'm missing some sarcasm,
Porky Pie = Lie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pork_pie#Names_and_references [wikipedia.org]
Re:What about journalistic standards though? (Score:1, Informative)
> That one document was the whole story
The events described in the document (Bush going AWOL from TANG) were the story. The story was already well underway before the forged document "surfaced".
> Too bad they never found an original, eh?
Most of Bush's TANG records vanished shortly after he went into politics (contrary to federal law). The absence of various documents which (legally speaking) are supposed exist isn't in doubt, nor is absence of people who were in TANG at the time Bush was supposed to be that recall having actually seen him, or the fact that the commander's secretary claims to have typed up reports about his absence.
Re:This doesn't help (Score:3, Informative)
Re:This doesn't help (Score:3, Informative)
One of the big problems with UK libel law is that the truth is NOT an absolute defense. For example, scientist sued by chiropractors for saying unproven treatment is 'bogus' [dailymail.co.uk]
Re:This doesn't help (Score:2, Informative)
Since libel law in England places the burden of proof on the defendant (this would be unconstitutional in America, due to that pesky "innocent until proven guilty" thing), meaning that Singh now has to PROVE that the statements were indeed bogus. Due to a rather creative take on the English language, the presiding judge decided that to rule the statements bogus, it must be proven that Singh not only knew that the BCA's claims were false, Singh also has to prove that the BCA knew that these statements were false. That is not reasonable. That is insane.
"innocent until proven guilty" is the standard of proof in criminal law, which is the same in US, UK and AFAIK all common law countries. Libel is civil law and the standard of proof in common law is "preponderance of the evidence", i.e the balance of the probability of which side might be just a little more right.
The burden of proof often shifts back and force in civil trials. The plaintiff (claimant in UK) must first make a prima facie case, to which then the respondent would either dispute the facts or raise a valid defense.
The issue in place is what defenses are deem valid in the particular jurisdiction, not who has the burden of proof.
Re:This doesn't help (Score:4, Informative)
Face it - if you (or some female relative) is a known prostitute, especially with a long list of convictions related to prostitution, and I should tell people that you are a whore, there should be NO PENALTY for doing so. Stating a fact should NEVER be a crime, nor should it be a civil matter.
And in Canada, it is not. Libel in Canada requires:
1. It must be false.
2. It must be believable.
3. It must do harm to the person.
For example, let's assume that I print "Runaway1956 bench-pressed 200 pounds, even though he could barely do it."
This is probably more than you can bench. Thus it's false, and it's potentially believable. However, it's not doing you any harm since it's most likely inflating your abilities in a nice way.
Now, let's say that you're a professional bodybuilder and you're going for a record next month. That would be harmful to you, so it could be libel.
The new twist is that if I talk to a lot of people who saw you struggling with the weight, then tried to contact you about it to get your side. Then it's no longer libel because I attempted to fulfil the standard obligations of the trade. (This isn't much different than Engineering -- it's okay to be wrong as long as you're not deviating from the standards of the time.) Even if the witnesses were wrong and you were having trouble lifting 200kg after doing 100 reps, I would still not be liable for libel since I talked to witnesses and didn't just make stuff up for the sake of harming your rep.