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Google Found Guilty of French Copyright Infringement 254

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from the slap-on-the-wrist dept.
adeelarshad82 writes "A Paris court on Friday found Google guilty of violating copyright by digitizing books and putting extracts online, following a legal challenge by major French publishers. The court found against Google after the La Martiniere group, which controls the highbrow Editions du Seuil publishing house, argued that publishers and authors were losing out in the latest stage of the digital revolution."
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Google Found Guilty of French Copyright Infringement

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  • by John Hasler (414242) on Friday December 18 2009, @04:25PM (#30492550) Homepage

    ...It agreed to a settlement with US authors and publishers...

    It agreed to a settlement with some US authors and publishers. Most authors were not involved.

  • by Aardpig (622459) on Friday December 18 2009, @04:32PM (#30492668)
    Yep, same as the US going into Indochina after someone had warned them of a quagmire. Now who was it who warned them? Oh yes, the French!
  • by techno-vampire (666512) on Friday December 18 2009, @06:04PM (#30493906) Homepage
    and then forcing us to put Eggs on our pizzas.

    Have you ever tried putting some eggs on a pizza just before it goes into the oven? If not you should; it's great!

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 18 2009, @06:12PM (#30493992)

    Their website: http://www.editionsduseuil.fr/

    Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ditions_du_Seuil

  • by Xtifr (1323) on Friday December 18 2009, @06:17PM (#30494026) Homepage

    the world would be more apt to find Victor Hugo in English than in French.

    Because...Victor Hugo died more recently in France than he did in the rest of the world? Because copyright laws apply differently depending on the source language? I'm sorry, I have no idea what point you're trying to make here, but I'm pretty sure Victor Hugo's works are in the public domain in every country and language.

  • Re:Make sense (Score:3, Informative)

    by Migraineman (632203) on Friday December 18 2009, @06:41PM (#30494308)
    Wow, you've caught me on an unusually good day. Lemme reach into the big bag o' Troll Feed and let's examine this deeper.

    This is bullshit.

    Quite possibly, but your emotional reaction tends to indicate that it isn't.

    Without the publisher advertising and distributing the book nobody would even know it existed.

    A little narrow minded to restrict this to books, but we'll entertain this constraint for now, as it is relevant to the original story. You are correct, without some form of "advertisement," be it word of mouth or billboards along the roadside, nobody would know your book existed. However, the "publisher" in the traditional sense of the word has become irrelevant. There are many avenues at my disposal to advertise a work that don't involve a greedy middleman. Youtube is a great example. Publication and distribution in electronic formats is perfectly viable these days.

    If you think its so easy to make it as an author without a publisher, prove it, publish your results, else STFU because you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

    When did I claim it was easy to be an author? I said "Lots of folks actually want their creative works indexed." That does include myself. As for "prove it," I am the author or co-author of a number of technical standards (radio and terrestrial communications) where I received not one thin dime of compensation for doing so, and get this, the standards are publicly available, so I also don't get any compensation when people implement the standards in products.

    And just to pre-empt other retards here, no, pointing to a few examples isn't "proof".

    How many would be enough? Ten? One hundred? Actually I'm quite amused by the whole "don't show me actual proof, cuz' I just called that it doesn't count." Care to stamp your feet and hold your breath until you turn blue? BTW, I call that the neighbor's tree is "base" where copyright doesn't apply.

    Google is using copyright content without permission to make money on online bookstore click-throughs.

    They're using an excerpt of the work in question, and the publishers are getting bent out of shape because they're being muscled out of their personal playground.

    Somehow I don't think they would be so careless with GPL copyright as it would freak out the simpleton fanbois like you who they desperately need as part of their online forum defense squad.

    Fanboi? Forum Defense Squad? Do members of the FDS get to wear nifty uniforms?

    Seriously, I don't see anything that reads like "Google can do no wrong." They provide an index, with some advertising that covers the costs. They don't charge me to list my content on their search engine, and my publications are exposed to a broader base of people than I could do otherwise by myself. I benefit from this relationship, directly.

  • English, in France (Score:3, Informative)

    by omb (759389) on Friday December 18 2009, @06:53PM (#30494456)
    I live about 120k from the French border, the Baseler grenze, at which I stop speaking German and shift to French. Thanks to ex President Francois Mitterand almost all young French speak English since they have to pass a spoken English test to go to French University.

    In the Alsace, almost all speak German as well, and in the South West Spanish "je n comprend pas" is very much a thing of the past, largely as a consequence of the mobility of labour in the EU.
  • Re:LMAO this is BS (Score:4, Informative)

    by koxkoxkox (879667) on Friday December 18 2009, @10:06PM (#30495826)

    That's nice and all to link to Wikipedia, but maybe you should read the articles before ... I will help you :
    * there isn't any american air bases in France. It was decided by De Gaulle quite a long time ago : I quote the article linked in your post "On 23 October 1967, all foreign flags were furled and after 17 years all NATO forces departed France."
    * France doesn't have any specialized bomber, but now a lot of planes can play the role : for example the Mirage 2000 is a multirole fighter.

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