AP Will Sell You a "License" To Words It Doesn't Own 340
James Grimmelmann performed an experiment using the AP's form to request a license to use more than four consecutive words from one of their articles. Except that he didn't paste in words from the (randomly chosen) article, but instead used 26 words written by Thomas Jefferson 196 years ago: If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea. The AP cheerfully charged him $12 to use Jefferson's 26 words. Both Boing Boing and TechDirt have picked up the story so far. Grimmelmann adds an update to his blog: the AP has rescinded his license to Jefferson's words and issued a refund for his $12. They did not exhibit the grace to admit that their software is brain-dead.
There's a market for meaningless licenses. (Score:5, Interesting)
I've known folks whose workplaces used to pay Sun a license fee for Perl ... the same Perl you could download for free (as in beer); and yes, the same Perl that is one of the usual examples of successful free (as in speech) software.
No, they didn't get tech support. They didn't get to file bugs against Perl that would be resolved by a Sun engineer. They didn't even get a custom build of Perl optimized for their Sun hardware. They didn't even get a CD. What they got was an invoice ... precisely what their company's IT procurement process required.
It's idiotic, but there is in fact a market for nothing: if you are correctly positioned as a trusted supplier, there are cases when you can get paid for delivering no product at all, but merely for carrying out the ritual of delivering a product, with all the paperwork thereunto appertaining.
Re:Copy and paste the article text you want to use (Score:2, Interesting)
This is a non-story. Some dude wanted to prove a point no one should care to prove. And he did.
Maybe the real point isn't done yet. Maybe the real point is that tech-news places will post any drivel they can find as news that they can flimsily relate to "your rights" and technology.
If that is the case I eagerly await his follow up story.
Re:brain-dead? (Score:3, Interesting)
but again, if you know you are w/in fair use, then use it, or ask an expert, don't ask the content owner.
Reuters text? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Copy and paste the article text you want to use (Score:3, Interesting)
How does the AP tie licensed text back to the article it applies to?
They do it by not paying royalties -- they do it by buying a license to distribute the article to others.
Let's say that you're, oh, a novelist with a 100,000 word novel, and a choice of how to get your payment. You can get paid 10% off the top for every one of your $10 books sold, OR you can get a $.10 a word for the right for the publisher to print your novel, and keep all the profit (or risk) to themselves.
If you're Stephen King, and can expect to easily sell way over 10,000 copies, you insist on the first deal. But if you're, oh, a nameless nobody, the $10k looks pretty good. Especially if you're already on to your next project, and need to feed your kids. And if you're a publisher that sells a LOT of almost randomly selected books, the latter looks good to you too--because you pay a fair amount of money to a lot of authors, and so get that lot of books you depend on.
Re:parent is not trolling, get a clue mods (Score:3, Interesting)
No, obviously.
"Do you think their system should allow that?"
If I tell you "The sentence in question is 7 words long.", do you interpret that as authorization to claim I said it? MSWord does word counts, does that mean I can attribute anything I type into it as an official MS position? Does Chewbacca live on Endor?
Re:Goodnight, Sweet AP. (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:There's a market for meaningless licenses. (Score:3, Interesting)
Which makes me wonder... if it is in the public domain, couldn't anyone sell a license for it? And if that's the case, couldn't *I* sell a license for it, for cheaper?
Yes, absolutely. Just so long as you don't claim that you own copyright to it, and that all rights to SQLite are reserved to you exclusively (which is what AP does here).
Re:parent is not trolling, get a clue mods (Score:2, Interesting)
You drive up onto a Ford lot in your Subaru and then when you hand the salesman money, he takes it and says "Have a nice day."
Re:There's a market for meaningless licenses. (Score:3, Interesting)