Watching the IPRED Watchers In Sweden 88
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digithed writes "In response to Sweden's recent introduction of new laws (discussed here recently) implementing the European IPRED directive, a new Swedish Web site has been launched allowing users to check if their IP address is currently under investigation. The site also allows users to subscribe for email updates alerting them if their IP address comes under investigation in the future, or to report IP addresses known to be under investigation. This interesting use of people power 'watching the watchers' is possible because the new Swedish laws implementing the IPRED directive require a public request to the courts in order to get ISPs to forcibly disclose potentially sensitive private information. Since all court records are public in Sweden, it will be easy to compile a list of addresses currently being investigated."
Government accountability (Score:5, Insightful)
Its a beautiful thing.
Re:Swedish does not derive from Latin (Score:3, Insightful)
The Sapir-Worf hypothesis
1) It's Sapir-Whorf - watch less star trek.
2) That hypothesis does not work like you think it does.
3) You don't understand Swedish laws, or the concept of habeas corpus.
4) ????
5) Oh, and fuck you.
Re:Swedish does not derive from Latin (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Swedish does not derive from Latin (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh, now "fuck you" is insightful?
Fuck you.
Re:Swedish does not derive from Latin (Score:0, Insightful)
No. "Fuck you" is insightful only in certain circumstances that you and BadAnalogyGuy don't fully grasp.
Re:Swedish does not derive from Latin (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Swedish does not derive from Latin (Score:5, Insightful)
...the concept of habeus corpus is not something that English speakers should be able to conceptualize either.
Yes, we did lose that ability just a few short years ago.
Re:127.0.0.1 (Score:2, Insightful)
The whole thing about this Swedish IPRED debacle is that it's not the police nor the government that are doing the investigations or raidings. It's private interests such as representatives or the record or movie industry. In some capacity, these groups have now been given more authority than the police, because awhile ago it was ruled that the police were not allowed to force ISPs to release subscription data on IP-addresses suspected of being used to break copyright law, because copyright-violation was not a serious enough crime to warrant it.
But now private groups can petition the ISPs (through the courts) for the identity of subscribers behind IP-addresses claimed to be used for "illegal filesharing"...
Welcome to the future :(
Re:i'm swedish (Score:4, Insightful)
And when they make it illegal to use VPNs and start enforcing it ?
The fuss is about that you shouldn't have to use proxies in order not to be monitored by a corporation playing cops.
Re:Swedish does not derive from Latin (Score:1, Insightful)
Unfortunately, they always seem to be right if the critics are from the US...
Re:Swedish does not derive from Latin (Score:0, Insightful)
In this case the "fuck you" does in fact deserve the insightful due to slashdot's lack of a "parent doesn't know jack shit about what he is blabbering about" moderation category. It's insightful because it clearly points out that your post is pure nonsense and the "fuck you" acts as a moderation-modifier that conveys the meaning of the missing moderation category.
So yes, fuck you BadAnalogyGuy.
Re:127.0.0.1 (Score:2, Insightful)
Whacky police state theory begins here
Now that we allow the record companies and their kin to run their own prvate police force, it's only a matter of time before the lawmakers realize how f*cked up that really is.
The answer, of course, is to give that power to the actual police in stead.
How do you do that?
That's something I theorized a few years ago; They will raise the upper limit of punishment for copyright infringement to levels which allow the police to engage in, for example, wiretapping (I believe that limit is reasonable suspicion of crimes warranting 4 years in prison at the moment).
Hey, presto! Since just about everyone in the country can be accused of copyright infringement, they now have a listen-to-your-communications-free card for ~9M people.
Re:Swedish does not derive from Latin (Score:4, Insightful)
Well, personally I'd mod this whole thread funny. However, the AC has a point. Your post appears to belittle an entire group of people. Whether or not that was your intended goal doesn't really matter. I shouldn't be surprised if you get a "fuck you" here and there for it though.
By saying that Swedish doesn't have a concept of Habeus Corpus--the liberty to not be detained unlawfully--is insulting, I would think.
The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis doesn't mean you can't think outside of your language, but the translation may be rough. For example, if someone literally translated Habeus Corpus to english without understanding its meaning, you get "You have the body". "Of course I have my body! Are you on crack?", someone who understands both languages and cultures would translate the concept, and not just the words.