Utah Mulls a Database of Bar Customers 623
sundancing alerts us to a political dustup in the state of Utah, which doesn't have bars like the rest of the country does. Instead, "private clubs" require you to fill out an application and pay a fee if you want to have a drink outside the home. While there is pressure to reform this arrangement — one argument is that it's bad for tourism — the head of the state senate recently floated a proposal to create a database of every bar patron's visits. Now Utah's governor has called that idea "almost Orwellian," adding that "it's very difficult to legislate adulthood," and its supporters seem to be backing off. The idea of requiring bar patrons to swipe their drivers licenses as proof of age is still on the table, though.
Ob (Score:5, Funny)
Wait... (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:fp (Score:5, Funny)
I like shaved pussy.
I believe Utah requires a permit for that too.
Re:Out of curiosity (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Yeah... Ok (Score:5, Funny)
I'm no fan of needles, but I'm also afraid of bullets.
Oh, and death itself.
Re:Out of curiosity (Score:5, Funny)
Hmm. I was curious too. From the most recent data I could find :
Murder rate, 2007, Utah, per 100,000 : 2.2
Murder rate, 2004, Germany, per 100,000 : 0.98
Murder rate, 2002, Saudi Arabia, per 100,000 : 0.92
So, clearly Utah is either too religious, or not religious enough. Or something.
Re:Ob (Score:2, Funny)
Yeah! Get a brain mormans!
Re:Phelps poll (Score:2, Funny)
So they are indie, non-conformists. I thought that was a good thing.
Re:Out of curiosity (Score:4, Funny)
The legislated morality may have very little to do with the crime rate. I mean, it's not a coincidence that Utah's overall violent crime rate is low- AND there's a ton of salt in their lake!
Re:Holy moly... (Score:4, Funny)
To eat casseroles, stare at their own feed, and mumble about the weather?
Re:Out of curiosity (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Out of curiosity (Score:1, Funny)
I disagree. They obviously don't have time to commit crimes when they have 20 wives nagging at them.
If that were the case, you'd expect the murder rate to be much higher though, wouldn't you?
Re:Holy moly... (Score:3, Funny)
They also limit the alcohol content of beer below a certain percentage. It's a rather strange state.
This is the reason that many beers (such as Guinness) made for US export is capped at 4% abv. It's the maximum potency for the most restrictive of state laws (I believe Fl. to be the same).
I'll see your 4% Florida, and raise you 3.2% Kansas!
Re:Phelps poll (Score:3, Funny)
Actually, with global warming causing icecaps to melt and whatnot, his crazy swimming abilities might actually have an evolutionary benefit! I, for one, welcome our half-fish super-fast-swimming overlords.
Re:Bad for what tourism? (Score:3, Funny)
I honestly don't mean this as a troll, but seriously, how much non-Mormon tourism is there in Utah?
Apparently a lot of people like to strap long slats to their feet and then hurtle down snow covered mountains at high speeds. Some say Utah is a good place to do this.
Also, every January thousands of black-clad posers come and put on some kind of film festival. Something about dancing on the sun.
Re:Phelps poll (Score:5, Funny)
I, for one, welcome our half-fish super-fast-swimming overlords.
Kevin Costner?
Ah...Utah (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Out of curiosity (Score:1, Funny)
Pork, corn, and bad driving: The secrets to a murder free lifestyle.
You ain't kidding about the bad driving; IOWA on a license plate stands for "Idiots Out Wandering Around".
Re:You're All Detached from the Mainstream (Score:3, Funny)
Include me in. I too am part of the 90% that thinks they are in the top 10%.
The rest of you losers are in the 10% that knows they are in the bottom 90%.
Re:Phelps poll (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Phelps poll (Score:5, Funny)
To be a nitpicker, this is an odd way to begin a sentence that is entirely being a nitpicker.
Re:Phelps poll (Score:4, Funny)
I, for one, welcome our STONED half-fish super-fast-swimming overlords.
There, fixed that for you.
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