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Aussie Net Filtering Trial Delayed 83

Posted by samzenpus
from the think-of-the-children dept.
hopejr writes "The Federal Opposition says it is not surprised the Government's mandatory internet filtering trial has been delayed. The trial, which was meant to begin today, has been postponed until mid-January 2009 and the internet service providers (ISPs) who will participate will be announced at the same time. ISPs iiNet and Optus both said yesterday they had not heard anything about their applications to participate in the trial, and doubted the Government would meet its own deadline."
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Aussie Net Filtering Trial Delayed

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  • Where at least I know I can break the law.

    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Both Australia and the USA were founded by criminals. Literally.
      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by fractoid (1076465)

        Both Australia and the USA were founded by criminals. Literally.

        Which is why I clearly cannot take the drink in front of ME.

      • by plasmacutter (901737) on Thursday December 25, 2008 @06:46AM (#26229427)

        Actually the US was founded by religious extremists which the british rightfully tried to get rid of.

        The descendents of those extremists, still equally extreme, continue to gain power and dismantle any progress we make as a nation toward social equality

        • Interesting. While the Puritans certainly could have been considered 'religious extremists' back in the time they settled here, they were, by far, not the majority.

          Most of the Founding Fathers weren't Puritans -- most weren't even Christian. Like many educated, affluent people, these men were influenced by the Age of Enlightenment, thus, many of them were Deists and Freemasons. Their influence is found in our founding documents -- the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. The stuff about all

        • by shirro (17185)

          Actually the US was founded by religious extremists which the british rightfully tried to get rid of.

          I thought the US was founded by lawyers, merchants and plantation owners.

        • "rightfully tried to get rid of"? This is the first time that I've heard persecution on basis of religion so blithely justified and accepted in a single phrase. Let me guess, you rooted for the Afrikaaners against Nelson Mandela, too, right?
          • So what exactly are you to do to those who preach persecution of others.

            In this case, you direct the same persecution toward them to marginalize them

            this works like the military phalanx system, you send equal force in the opposite direction and nullify it.

            Sometimes two wrongs do make a right, or is it really wrong to marginalize the intolerant?

            • > So what exactly are you to do to those who preach persecution of others. In this case, you direct the same persecution toward them to marginalize them

              Since you're preaching persecution of others, it's okay if we do that to you, right? Or is this one of those things that's only bad when other people do it?

              • > So what exactly are you to do to those who preach persecution of others. In this case, you direct the same persecution toward them to marginalize them

                Since you're preaching persecution of others, it's okay if we do that to you, right? Or is this one of those things that's only bad when other people do it?

                When a foreign army is invading YOUR town, "thou shalt not kill" goes out the window.

                Religious extremists work diligently to persecute others. Persecution of them is the rightful response.

        • by dbIII (701233)
          You got a different bunch of extremists after 1906. I don't think any of the troublesome groups can be blamed on the early settlers. Mormons come somewhere in between in time but I wouldn't call them extreme, and scientologists came a lot later but I wouldn't call them a religeon.

          Australia has (had?) the Magnificant Meal which was a fairly nasty cult designed for the personal power of the founder, who I think is now in jail for a very long list of fraud and theft offences. We also have the "Exclusive Bre

        • by ErikZ (55491) *

          Actually, I've never seen any kind of god-based religious extremist try anything of the sort.

          I'm not referring to the communists, socialists, vegetarians though. They're always trying to push their beliefs on others.

          • Actually, I've never seen any kind of god-based religious extremist try anything of the sort.

            -Lifers
            -evangelicals who destroyed the worldwide economy by putting a potted plant..a shrub if you will.. in charge of the world's largest consumer market.
            -the mormon church (prop 8 anyone?)

            that's just a small, short list off the top of my head, and my mind and body are severely addled by illness atm.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by corstar (916066)
        And both are still run by criminals!
  • Surprising really. With all the effort gone to "think of the children" (read : We need your vote so will go along with a scheme that no-one thinks will work), it has been delayed?

  • by Anonymous Coward
    On the first day of Christmas the government brought me... A time extension for my isp. I must have faith in my ISP, iinet. Help me iinet, you're my only hope. I have around 20 days to download like the wind, then my 40 gig on peak - 60 gig off peak internet goes to hell and I need to start thinking about moving to... England...?
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      Nope. England is getting nearly as bad. I'm thinking Antarctica. Time to build a new civilization based on 21st century evolved values, not 16th century ones.
      • by Samah (729132)
        Nah I think you want an underwater city like Rapture [wikipedia.org].
      • Nope. England is getting nearly as bad. I'm thinking Antarctica. Time to build a new civilization based on 21st century evolved values, not 16th century ones.

        canada.

        Throttling, but not censorship. Liberal copyright laws, and a heavy weight copyright reform lobbyist with the ear of the newspapers and MSM.

      • by Pichu0102 (916292)

        Good luck. If you tried that, I'm pretty sure most other countries would bomb you to nonexistence. Can't have the proles getting uppity and thinking they can form their own country where they aren't drained by the upper class.

    • by Xiroth (917768)

      Remember, the trials are not going to be live [slashdot.org], so it shouldn't affect you as a normal customer. Hopefully those trials will be the last we hear of this.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    This just in from Guido's blog, premier political blog in the UK.

    There is some rumour about a big political operator's son having his e-mail hacked. Minor story about a criminal act. And the lawyers have just slapped a writ on all the newspapers and bloggers forbidding them from mentioning this. Luckily, Guido is not so easily cowed....http://www.order-order.com/2008/12/up-yours-carter-ruck.html

    Freedom demands that there should be a high traffic on this attempt to suppress news, so slashdot and spread all y

  • Now that's one Christmas gift I'm happy to get!
  • by DaBookshah (1234170) on Thursday December 25, 2008 @05:07AM (#26229225)
    We need to ensure we have Conroys head on a stake when he comes up for re-election, and we need to make sure everyone knows why, too.
    • by corstar (916066)
      Hell yeah! It's time to cut a few tall poppies down starting with these corrupt assholes. Does anyone remember Comrade Kevin promising a broadband initiative during his campaign? This filter was what he was promising! Fuck the government. They have far too much power in this country...
      • by TheSeer2 (949925)

        Don't you get it! NBN = FASTER. FILTER = SLOW. They balance each other out! We can maintain the status quo, and for only several billion dollars! It's a bargain!

    • by TheSeer2 (949925)

      Why only Conroy? It's not like he's a rogue minister pushing this against his party's will.

    • by Xiroth (917768)

      Good luck: Conroy is a senate-based minister - he'd be pretty close to the top of his party's state list, which means that you'd have to vote out everyone under him on the state's Labor senate list before you could get him. You'd be looking at a shift of something like 35-40% of the vote.

      That's the downside to proportional representation - you can't remove individuals unless they're from a small party/independent.

    • Yeah I was thinking along the same lines, but then I saw him tell Telstra to f*** off with regard to the National Broadband Network, which was a good call.

      Still, no point having a good NBN if it's censored.
  • When will you Aussie's stand up for your rights and oust that lout Mugabe. Ohh, wait. That's some other commonwealth country. Who's your dictator again?
    • by fractoid (1076465)
      We get to choose the face every 3 years. The policies, not so much, but it keeps the sheepulous happy and the government generally doesn't shoot at you or lock you up unless you're misbehaving.
  • Cool (Score:4, Interesting)

    by suckmysav (763172) <suckmysavNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Thursday December 25, 2008 @06:05AM (#26229329) Journal

    So Optarse are volunteering for the trial eh?

    I couldn't ask for a better test case really. Those cretins are so goddamn incompetent that they have not a hope in hell of getting it working to an acceptable level.

    Roll on the trial I say!

  • An in line filter. Well all I see is a massive slow down and halt. Witch is soon followed by a renewed increase in encrypted traffic.

    This thing is going to have a dramatic impact on Aussie commerce.

    This is such an ill founded idea and complete waste of tax payers funds. This is simply going to start an arms race that the government and the ISP have little chance of winning.

    Note in Aus that most Internet plans have byte limit caps. Thus the ISP's have little interest in being in a commanding position of t

  • Censoring The Internet (without enormous economic losses) does not work. Here's why: Step 1: Introduce content filters that work on HTTP only. They filter only "extreme stuff". Anti-Step 1: Use a simple web proxy based in another country to see what you want. Step 2: Block access to web proxies and similar sites Anti-Step 2: Use your own proxy server - based in another country, on another port. Step 3: Block access to all ports except port 80 Anti-Step 3: Create a redundant proxy mechanism that encrypts
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