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Chinese Hacking of American Military Networks On the Rise 205

Posted by Soulskill
from the secure-the-international-tubes dept.
Anti-Globalism writes with this excerpt from the Guardian: "China is stealing sensitive information from American computer networks and stepping up its online espionage, according to a US congressional panel. Beijing's investment in rocket technology is also accelerating the militarization of outer space and lifting it into the 'commanding heights' of modern warfare, the advisory group claims. ... A summary of the study, released in advance, alleges that networks and databases used by the US government and American defense contractors are regularly targeted by Chinese hackers. 'China is stealing vast amounts of sensitive information from US computer networks,' says Larry Wortzel, chairman of the commission set up by Congress in 2000 to investigate US-China issues." The full study addresses these issues and others relating to the US-China relationship (PDF).
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Chinese Hacking of American Military Networks On the Rise

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  • Get real. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Colin Smith (2679) on Friday November 21, 2008 @06:38PM (#25853103)

    This is propaganda. It's simply preparing the public for adding China to the Axis of Evil, erecting trade barriers etc.

     

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 21, 2008 @06:48PM (#25853221)

    There are -zero- smelting plants for steel based alloys in the US.

    Similar with electronics manufacturing, which is all done overseas.

    All China would have to do is not export goods or raw alloys, and the US would be in a world of hurt.

    Or China could just bomb Taiwan and cause the US more pain because of the sheer amount that the US depends on their manufacturing for electronic items.

    China has the ball in this game.

  • Old School Security (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Plekto (1018050) on Friday November 21, 2008 @07:19PM (#25853549)

    Perhaps this seems a bit extreme, but exactly WHY are these military computers even connected to the Internet? If it's really secret information, shouldn't they have their own network or just not put these things online?

  • by WindBourne (631190) on Friday November 21, 2008 @08:24PM (#25854161) Journal
    I have seen this. I used to work in a start-up and saw 2 seperate incidents. In one case, I was hiring for coders. Found a gal who was interesting. She had married a GI and moved to Northern Colorado Springs. Since we could do the work over the line, not an issue. I interviewed her and she was not interested. That is, until I mentioned taht we were doing work for DOD and NSA. Then her attitude changed dramatically. She very much wanted the job. Ok, not a big deal.

    But a year later, we were looking for funding. Found a Tawain born guy from Loveland who use to own the chinese restaurant there. He wanted to invest. But he insisted on getting control of the hardware (which was the important part) if we defaulted. When would company be considered defaulted? When he said so. Told him no way. So, then he wanted to buy hardware and said that he would sell it in mainland china and we could all be worth 30 million or more. The hardware was only 1M. But he explained that mainland was willing to pay 30 for it and might go higher. I was actually shocked since I considered him Tawainese and would not do that. My opinion changed when at a slashdot posting, a tawain native said that the chinese who came there STILL consider themselves chinese, not tawainese. The original guy may not have been a spy. But, he was all too happy to sell tech to them. More interestingly, he indicated that he had been in touch WITH mainland china.

    No, this is absolutely not propaganda. This is VERY real. Chinese ppl are happy to see their country coming up. And I understand that. But chinese gov is STILL in a cold war with us. They are very much spying on the west and buying tech. whenever possible. And yes, it is the west, not just America. That includes countries like Japan, Australia, Canada, France, UK, Israel, etc and even Russia. In fact, I consider your statement far more propaganda, because you have NO IDEA of what you are talking about.
  • by victim (30647) on Friday November 21, 2008 @08:34PM (#25854239)

    The DoD takes everything personally, and for good reason, but I have a steady stream of chinese hackers attempting to break into the router in my tool shed that reports battery voltage and temperature at a cabin that is inaccessible for 6 months of the year.

    I really should put a webcam in there so they can see what they have achieved if they ever do manage to get in.

    (22.1F, batteries 25.3V, 600 watt hours of energy stored today.)

  • by wisty (1335733) on Friday November 21, 2008 @11:38PM (#25855373)

    Don't be to hard on them. China holding dollars gave the west cheap finance, which triggered an asset bubble, and encouraged overcapacity building in China (overcapacity and debt are the two main causes of depressions, depending on which economists you ask). Then they didn't pass on the wealth to their grunt workers, so Chinese demand won't be able to cushion the fall. Oh wait, that was pretty hard on them.

  • Re:Get real. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by zappepcs (820751) on Saturday November 22, 2008 @12:42AM (#25855673) Journal

    I think the US was just testing the waters at that point. We signed the commerce deals, opened borders... that sort of shunted the communist thing to ground. Now we have to deal with the 21st century cold war problems. What we are seeing is that effort. Dealing with enemies that cannot be outed without revealing your own discrepancies. Cat and mouse in the age of social networking and video phones is much different than the post WWII cold war.

    Everyone has forgotten the mysterious underwater cable cuts. Not before or since has such happened, and it's now just ignored. If you ask me that is bizarre. I'm not saying one way or the other what actually happened, but look at the news, and how news treated such problems before then. It's ... odd.

    As for who has a better grasp now? I would think that those who know Obama's social circles know best. I'm fairly disgusted with American politicians and what they have accomplished in the last 30 years. I want my America back and I'm not easily swayed from thinking that those in power are corrupt beyond redemption. It is not easy to get in those positions of power, and getting the backing to get there is not a job for the pious. Sure, it takes a bit of that to make the decisions that are necessary, but the warnings Eisenhower gave us should be printed on coffee cups everywhere so we don't forget. http://leisureguy.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/chalmers-johnson-on-the-military-industrial-complex/ [wordpress.com]

    Today, 22 Nov 2008, is the anniversary of JFK's assassination. What better time to stop and think about how many plans within plans our governments weave. It is by no small measure that they benefit from such deceptions. I am fully willing to see and hear evidence from full and impartial investigations into all matters of dodgy repute where government is concerned... and until I see such investigations, I will continue to believe that governments are run by, and staffed by corrupt individuals. If you think your mailman is one of the people I'm speaking about and that they are not corrupt, ok... I'm talking about people that make decisions, sign things into law, or send soldiers to fight etc.

  • by Ex-MislTech (557759) on Saturday November 22, 2008 @10:11AM (#25857645)

    It is not too hard to hack a network if you got
    counterfeit hardware inside the network giving
    you a backdoor in.

    http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/12/FBI-worried-as-DoD-sold-counterfeit-Cisco-gear_1.html [infoworld.com]

    So once they got in, they learned what they needed
    to know to stay in, and put other methods in place
    to stay in.

    They are going to have to rebuild their network one segment
    at a time from the ground up.

    They need several things with one of them being segment
    monitoring IDS system that can detect the outbound traffic.

    Something that can track all outbound traffic against
    a white-list of acceptable IPs, think a reverse peer guardian
    that tracks what IP's are reached and snds alarms if they
    are not on the list.

    In any event they will have a monumental task of clearing
    all the backdoors in the system, and should consider going
    totally to a secure hardware+software encrypted VPN that
    does not even travel over the public internet.

    There is enough dark fiber out there to do it for the classified
    material they transmit.

    Also if most of your military traffic goes over the old
    global crossing network, don't allow the public sale of
    that network to a foreign nation with an oppposing ideology.

    Namely China !

    http://www.hereinreality.com/likashing.html [hereinreality.com]

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