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RealNetworks, Film Industry Headed To Court 173

netbuzz writes "Apparently tired of waiting to be sued by the movie studios over its new DVD-to-PC copying software, RealNetworks this morning announced it will file a preemptive lawsuit in an attempt to authoritatively establish that the product does not infringe on copyright restrictions. Within an hour or so, the Motion Picture Association of America said it would have a litigation announcement of its own this afternoon."
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RealNetworks, Film Industry Headed To Court

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  • The Deadly Courtroom (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Nom du Keyboard ( 633989 ) on Tuesday September 30, 2008 @01:10PM (#25206497)
    A courtroom is something most of us with even a modicum of common sense do our best to stay out of. There are no guarantees (well none except that the lawyers on both sides will get rich) of what can happen in there. To go all preemptive over this must mean that Real suspects that the MPAA themselves are not wanting to see this before a judge and Real feels they may have leverage. Heaven knows that the MPAA otherwise is hardly shy or retiring about filing suits of their own over imagined slights.
  • by clang_jangle ( 975789 ) * on Tuesday September 30, 2008 @01:13PM (#25206553) Journal
    But judgements set precedents. So maybe this particular battle is just theatre, i.e. MPAA sets up Real to "oppose" them in a non-meaningful and indefensible manner, MPAA wins judgement which sets far-reaching precedent that takes away more consumer Fair Use rights. As evil as Real Networks has historically been, it certainly wouldn't be shocking.
  • Not Your Rights (Score:3, Interesting)

    by DynaSoar ( 714234 ) on Tuesday September 30, 2008 @01:17PM (#25206609) Journal

    This is not about "your rights". This is about lawyers making sure they and their counterparts are assured the driver's seat on this particular gravy train. There are plenty of other DVD copying programs out there being soundly ignored by MPAA and Real is already more reputable (in terms MPAA would accept) than the others. The only way the MPAA would be ready to reply same day with their own announcement is if they were already planning on doing so, and that requires knowing Real's intentions prior to their announcement. Much as I enjoy MPAA getting tweaked, I'm not going to credit Real with altruism when this amounts to nothing more than self-serving PR and income enhancement via docket padding.

  • The Naked Emperor (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Nom du Keyboard ( 633989 ) on Tuesday September 30, 2008 @02:47PM (#25207769)
    This Emperor truly has no clothes. Here's why...

    CSS encryption was broken so long ago by now that a lot of people don't even remember non-crackable movie DVDs. At best it's a low tripwire rather than an insurmountable barrier.

    The content industry contends that Real's product, like Kaleidoscope's before them, removes even the tripwire for people who are too stupid to know how to Google. They further contend that there's this "delicate balance" of DRM that allows the studios to release their "incredibly valuable" content to the consumers in standard digital form and still sleep at night. Without keeping this nebulous veil that the works are protected against copying the studios would not release any movies to DVD any longer.

    IT'S A LIE!

    Studios make half their profits from any movie off of DVD sales. They can't afford to give them up. Blockbuster rentals didn't destroy them. Netflix hasn't destroyed them. deCSS hasn't destroyed them, and neither will Real. In short:

    THE STUDIOS AREN'T GOING TO QUIT SELLING DVDs BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO!

    So much for the big scary stories that your DVD player is about to become a paperweight. Ain't going to happen. Yeah they'll make a bit less than extracting every last penny, but they're not going to pull DVD sales because there is yet another hole in the armor of DRM.

    In fact, DRM never was about "copy protection". Make a bit-by-bit copy of any movie DVD with all the DRM intact and the copy plays just like the original.

    CSS DRM DOES NOT PREVENT EXACT COPIES FROM BEING MADE! IT ISN'T COPY PROTECTION!

    Are we clear on that now? All DRM does is limit your ability on where and how you can play your lawfully purchased content. The content provider would like to sell you one copy to play on your television, then another full price copy to play on your computer, and then another full price copy to play on your game console, your game handheld, your portable DVD player... They'd love to sell you the same content over and over and over again (think vinyl, cassette, CD, iTunes).

    The problem is that people now have more choices than ever (HDTV, PC, Gameboy, iPod) all at the same time and they want to Buy-Once-Play-Everywhere. Furthermore they don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to do this. And every moderate to wealthy household has a powerful engine in their own personal computer(s) capable of making all this happen. The movie industry's dream of pay-per-each-viewing, pay-per-device is a lovely dream not likely to ever be realized. Try that and there will be a revolution that will truly put them in their place.

    So don't buy into the farce that only DRM makes it possible for us to have DVD movies. PROFITS are what make it possible for us to have DVD movies and those profits are still there. Enough people buy legal DVDs to keep the system running, and are likely to continue to do so.

    So quit lying to us about the necessity of DRM, or how Real can't be allowed to do what is already being done. Try to make our lives simplier, not more complex, and quit trying to pick our pockets every moment. Times are hard enough right now as it is, and I don't see movie star and studio executive salaries declining as fast as my own yet.
  • by A Bookworm ( 692297 ) on Tuesday September 30, 2008 @08:44PM (#25212407)
    The lawsuit has nothing to do with whether or not RealNetworks' product infringes copyright restrictions. It has to do with whether or not RealNetworks' product violates the contract that they signed to legally get the CSS keys for DVDs. That contract is essential to avoid violating the DMCA with DVD copying software; having it gives you permission to create products that decrypt DVDs. That's what tripped up 321 Studios a few years back; they didn't have a CSS contract.

    Just recently a judge ruled that the "CSS General Specifications", which are given to a licensee after the contract is signed (ostensibly because the specs include confidential information that can only be disseminated after the licensee is bound by the contract), are not themselves part of the contract. As the provisions forbidding copying are written up in the "CSS General Specifications," the judge ruled that the contract itself does not forbid creating products that copy DVDs. That ruling has been appealed, but I haven't been able to find anything about the appeal. I presume that it hasn't been heard yet.

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