Debunking the Google Earth Censorship Myth 294
waderoush writes "There's a persistent Web meme to the effect that Google obscures sensitive or top-secret locations in Google Maps and Google Earth at the insistence of national governments. A July IT Security article promoted on Digg, 'Blurred Out: 51 Things You Aren't Allowed to See on Google Maps,' revived this notion. But the article has been widely criticized, and I did some fact-checking this week on the six Boston-area locations mentioned in the IT Security list. As it turns out, not one of the allegedly blurred locations has degraded imagery in Google Maps, as my screen shots demonstrate. My post looks into the sources of the misleading IT Security piece, and of other mistaken rumors about Google Maps."
Blurry, no; pixelated hell yes (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Rye Playland (Score:3, Informative)
better link:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=rye+new+york&ie=UTF8&ll=40.965803,-73.673158&spn=0.013999,0.020449&t=h&z=16 [google.com]
Re:So what about the other 45 locations? (Score:5, Informative)
Did this guy really not look at these locations? Those were in the top five, and there are links to the Google Maps locations in question, for crying out loud.
Re:Fact Checking Failure (Score:1, Informative)
Actually, Google Maps uses the same image database as Google Earth, so yes. It's just presented differently, and in some cases with added data (i.e. terrain). Go and look for yourself: zoom into any city street with both services and compare, the cars are identical on both.
Re:Blurry, no; pixelated hell yes (Score:2, Informative)
Per se [wikipedia.org].
Re:Fact Checking Failure (Score:5, Informative)
All the higher-res images are airplane shots, not satellite. Why does this need constant reminding?
Ramstein airbase is whited out (Score:5, Informative)
I discovered today that Ramstein airbase in Germany (hugely important to US) is "whited out". At first I just thought it was a really big building, then I thought white concrete surfacing. Finally I realized that it was blacked out, but they tried to make it look like it wasn't. They even threw in a a few fake aircraft and shadows, but didn't quite make it past the uncanny valley. It's just a matter of time until they perfect the fabrication of imagery for those locations.
See for yourself; that ain't real. [google.com]
Re:Ramstein airbase is whited out (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Rye Playland (Score:2, Informative)
You have a fairly loose definition of "Rye, New York".
Re:Ramstein airbase is whited out (Score:1, Informative)
Here are some known censorings... (Score:1, Informative)
From http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/15/business/yourmoney/15techno.html?ex=1124164800&en=cc2fc070fabda25b&ei=5070&oref=login
"NOW, a promised final word about Google's aerial views. Last month, I mentioned that one small part of the American land mass was obscured in an unusual way. It's not the headquarters of the C.I.A., which is there in such detail you that can tell the color of cars in the parking lots. Nor is the mystery zone a dam or a power plant. Some are clearer than others, but the differences result from varying quality of satellite photographs from place to place.
True, the roofs of the White House and two neighboring buildings have been Photoshopped, to conceal whatever protective systems may be up there. And the view of the United States Capitol grounds is blurry, though the contours of the main buildings are distinct. But to see what real camouflage looks like, zoom in on the satellite view of 1 Observatory Circle in Washington. That's where Dick Cheney lives."
Propaganda piece of an article (Score:5, Informative)
This article is BS. As anyone how bothers to see there are places on google earth that are blurred or cut out and replaced with green fields.
Here are two examples.
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=52.109911,4.326597&ie=UTF8&ll=52.109912,4.326596&spn=0.00456,0.009549&z=17&iwloc=addr [google.com]
http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=53.2232,5.754861&ie=UTF8&ll=53.223199,5.754862&spn=0.01778,0.038195&z=15&iwloc=addr [google.com]
Re:Rye Playland (Score:2, Informative)
For some reason, the Kohl's Shopping Center in nearby Port Chester is also blurred a bit, though I can't fathom why.
I've been thinking about starting a blog containing pictures of places that are obscured on Google Maps for no apparent reason.
http://tinyurl.com/4ysydq [tinyurl.com] is the shopping center's view.
Re:Cite a source... (Score:2, Informative)
I wonder how many russian satellites have good coverage of the United States. Geostationary [wikipedia.org] satellites wouldn't have good coverage (at least for map-making of the United States, since they're following the equator and would view the United States at an angle). The russian satellites on the Molnya orbit wouldn't have very good coverage either (at least for anything Naval in the United States, scroll down to see their coverage map [wikipedia.org], besides they're very high and probably wouldn't get good detailed pictures)
Now, I don't doubt that the russians have many low altitudes geosynchronous satellites that are designed especially to have good coverage of the United States, but I wouldn't be surprised if those satellites are mostly military spy satellites (of Russia, France, or wherever), and that due to the military purpose of those satellites, that their images don't get sold on the public open market yet.
In any case, here is a newsletter from google talking about their sources for imagery.
Re:Propaganda piece of an article (Score:1, Informative)
They aren't replaced with green fields, they are blurred by applying a polygon filter, so there are hints of the underlying image. The first one is applied to 2 neighborhoods, the second one to an airport, both in the Netherlands.
What is so special about these two locations is a legitimate question.
The second one is easily understandable. It is a small airport just to the NW of Leeuwarden that doesn't appear on the map view either, and that corresponds to Leeuwarden Air Base [wikipedia.org] -- i.e., it's military.
The first one is not so obvious. The two "blurred" areas don't look much different from other built-up areas in the neighborhood. But click on the "More" button in Google Maps and the Wikipedia button and you'll discover that the NE area is the site of the NATO Consultation, Command and Control Agency [wikipedia.org]. I expect the area to the SW is related.
The article is indeed nonsense. There are plenty of areas that are obfuscated in Google Earth for reasons that are fairly clear.
What would be interesting is to catalog all of them in Google Earth as "places 'they' don't want you to see", and try to find the places that can't be easily accounted for.
Re:Rye Playland (Score:2, Informative)
Playland, the amusement park in Rye, New York, also shows up as blurred compared to the surrounding suburbs: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=52.248722,4.43965&spn=0.3,0.3&t=k&q=52.248722,4.43965 [google.com]
Cannot imagine why!
I don't know why this was modded as +5 Informative - the link doesn't even go to Rye, NY. Unless Rye, NY is now in Europe...
Zoom out at the location that is linked to and it is in Holland.