Cuba Lifts Ban on Home Computers 290
ianare writes "The first legalized home computers have gone on sale in Cuba, the latest in a series of restrictions on daily life which President Raul Castro has lifted in recent weeks. The desktop computers cost almost $800, in a country where the average wage is under $20 a month, but some Cubans do have access to extra income. Internet access remains restricted to certain workplaces, schools and universities on the island which the government claims is due to low bandwidth availability. Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez is laying a new cable under the Caribbean, but it remains unclear whether once the connection is completed, the authorities will allow unrestricted access to the internet."
Re:This is not news... (Score:5, Insightful)
Just an idea, since my US government is all about supporting an open and free Cuba, it might not be bad idea to lead some sort of initiative to proliferate computers to the people. I know the government might frown upon something like this, but it would give America the moral high ground, which is something neither side has been worthy of so far.
Bandwidth and freedom (Score:5, Insightful)
The main problem I see is that they are using mostly unlicensed copy of windows, since Windows licenses can't be acquired in Cuba.
Hey, how come Cubans can order PCs and not have to pay for Windows? Heck, they are already once step ahead of us.
If the US was smart, strike and agreement with Cuba, given them decent pipe access via Florida so long as they put 1 million uncensored PCs on it in say 2-3 years. That will reach 1 in 11 Cubans. Free flow of information is a true friend of democracy.
Re:Censorship or bandwidth problem? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Either share your wealth with us, or we'll share our poverty with you.
It applies to more than just 1st vs 3rd world.
Their "claim" is correct (Score:2, Insightful)
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Think they'll like to pass on getting US style medical.
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Re:Offer them free I2/NLR connectivity! (Score:2, Insightful)
The US probably even delivers more care per person on average, it just gets concentrated more.
Re:American business/citizens to get in trouble? (Score:2, Insightful)
Why would you think that software would be any different? If Microsoft was involved in setting up intermediaries to deliver software to Cuba and it happened at the board level Balmer might get some heat for it, but he can't do a whole lot to stop a distributor in Mexico from shipping stuff to Cuba.
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Re:American business/citizens to get in trouble? (Score:2, Insightful)
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Do you realize that is a sign of how far your country has fallen? It was when people said that of your people that your country was great. Now, you rely on exploitative economics and war where once you relied on yourselves, and marvel that a people could take care of themselves.
Re:how this works for the Empire (Score:5, Insightful)
There are no American restrictions on Cubans. The American restrictions are on Americans (with a few even more bullshit extensions attempting to extend the embargo to non-American companies who deal with Americans; even Canada won't put up with that shit) . And calling an embargo "imperialist" is pretty rich... what would you call it if the US had normal relations with Cuba and there was a Starbucks and a McDonalds on every corner in Havana? Oh, right... you'd call it "cultural imperialism" or something similar.
Re:Bandwidth and freedom (Score:1, Insightful)
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Re:Bandwidth and freedom (Score:3, Insightful)
Farmers in the US have to pay for their own health insurance, which may not actually cover the tests they need. Trust me on this. I've gotten socked for $2000 for a test DESPITE having health insurance and DESPITE it being supposedly covered. Why? I don't know, but the insurance company sure as hell wouldn't pay.
There's nothing quite like having a sudden unbudgeted $2000 expense. It's one of the reason my credit card is maxed out.
Then you have to realize that quite a few people in the US simply can't get health insurance. Due to insurance companies refusing to pay for care for "preexisting conditions" it's quite easy for some in the US to be unable to pay for treatment because they simply cannot get affordable health insurance.
You know who ends up paying in the long run? We do. Because the person with no insurance, who can't get insurance at reasonable rates, will eventually wind up in the emergency room. And the emergency room, by law, can't refuse patients. When they STILL can't pay, every one else has to pay via increased medical costs.
Try actually getting sick in the US before declaring the US system the best ever. You'll change your tune quite quickly. I'll take long waits over simply being refused treatment.
Re:Bandwidth and freedom (Score:4, Insightful)
and a UK parliamentary commitee, went over and made a similar report:
* In Cuba it was one doctor per 175 people, in the UK the figure was one doctor per 600 people.
* There is a commitment in Cuba to the triple diagnosis (physical/psychological/social) at all levels.
* Extensive involvement of "patient" and the public in decision making at all levels.
* Integration of hospital/community/primary care via polyclinics.
* Team-work that works is much more evident both in the community and the hospital sector and the mental-health and care of the elderly sites visited were very well staffed and supported.
# Poor facilitiesâ"buildings in poor state of repair and mostly outdated.
# Poor provision of equipment.
# Frequent absence of essential drugs.
# Concern regarding freedom of choice both for patient and doctor.
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There was a funny incident in Canada, I think it was related to the Helms/Burton act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helms-Burton_Act [wikipedia.org] where the Canadian Wal-Mart stores were found to be selling Cuban made clothing, and the US government ordered them to stop. So they (briefly) stopped. Canadian newspapers found out and it was turned into a big sovereignty flap on this side of the border. The Canadian government then forbade any company operating on Canadian soil from obeying the embargo, and Wal-Mart's Cuban made clothing returned.
Funny how little things get turned into a government p*ssing contest - wars have started over stupid crap like this.
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The EU did pretty much the same thing, but it's sure to have frightened away some companies. Saudi Arabia makes Cuba look like a model free society, yet the oppressive regime there is supported by the US. The US stance against Cuba has nothing to do with freedom or democracy. Indeed the history of US policy in the region has been one of deterring democracy, not promoting it.
The US wants cooperative governments that are friendly to US business interests. The current government of Venezuela fails both those tests, so despite being a democracy, the US is trying to undermine it and there was of course the coup attempt in 2002 as well. Such a coup attempt is far easier to organise in an open society like Venezuela than in Cuba, which is probably one of the reasons Cuba has been closed up so tight for so long.
The US is also trying to undermine the current Bolivian government for much the same reason. The US government far preferred the previous business friendly regime, despite the massacres perpetrated against the Bolivian people.
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This kind of ignorance about Islam really sickens me. Have you even read the Qur'an? Or Islamic history? You can't take the actions of a few ultra-radical fundamentalists as a mark of the religion as a whole.
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