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FBI Wants Authority To Filter Net Backbone 413

Dionysius, God of Wine and Leaf, writes "There are places where criminal activity is centralized: the backbone hubs located in hosting facilities across the country. All of the Internet's activity, legal and illegal, flows through these 'choke points,' and the feds, of course, are already tapping those points and siphoning off data. What Mueller wants is the legal authority to comb through the backbone data, which is already being siphoned off by the NSA, in order to look for illegal activity."
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FBI Wants Authority To Filter Net Backbone

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  • What If... (Score:5, Funny)

    by FurtiveGlancer ( 1274746 ) <AdHocTechGuy AT aol DOT com> on Friday April 25, 2008 @01:17PM (#23199818) Journal
    What if their combing leads me to a brush with the law? It could get hairy....
  • FY. (Score:5, Funny)

    by Pahroza ( 24427 ) on Friday April 25, 2008 @01:19PM (#23199842)
    I for one DO NOT welcome our evil packet sniffing overlords.
  • by motek ( 179836 ) on Friday April 25, 2008 @01:21PM (#23199872) Homepage

    the public seems to have lost interest in this troubling phenomenon.
    The public is busy with something else. They went shopping.
  • by gstoddart ( 321705 ) on Friday April 25, 2008 @01:23PM (#23199892) Homepage

    The legal authority to block anything he can't read.

    What, like French? Or just something tedious like Stephen King? ;-)

    Cheers
  • by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Friday April 25, 2008 @01:30PM (#23199988)
    What Mueller wants is the legal authority to comb through the backbone data...

    e'll-Way ust-jay se-uay ode-cay.

  • Your post advocates a

    (X) technical (X) legislative ( ) market-based (X) vigilante

    approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)

    ( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
    (X) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
    (X) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
    ( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
    ( ) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
    ( ) Users of email will not put up with it
    (X) Microsoft will not put up with it
    ( ) The police will not put up with it
    ( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
    (X) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
    ( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
    ( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
    (X) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business

    Specifically, your plan fails to account for

    (X) Laws expressly prohibiting it
    (X) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
    (X) Open relays in foreign countries
    ( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
    (X) Asshats
    (X) Jurisdictional problems
    ( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
    ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
    ( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
    ( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
    ( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
    (X) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
    (X) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
    ( ) Extreme profitability of spam
    (X) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
    (X) Technically illiterate politicians
    ( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
    (X) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
    (X) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
    ( ) Outlook

    and the following philosophical objections may also apply:

    ( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
    been shown practical
    ( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
    (X) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
    ( ) Blacklists suck
    ( ) Whitelists suck
    (X) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
    (X) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
    (X) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
    (X) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
    (X) Sending email should be free
    (X) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
    ( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
    ( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
    ( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
    (X) I don't want the government reading my email
    ( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough

    Furthermore, this is what I think about you:

    ( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
    (X) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
    ( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your
    house down!
  • by UncleTogie ( 1004853 ) * on Friday April 25, 2008 @01:49PM (#23200264) Homepage Journal

    ....by the fuzz, no less.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 25, 2008 @01:57PM (#23200398)

    Yeah, and I want to get laid and every five year old wants a pony.

    Well, maybe you two can reach an agreement. :-P

    Ooooh, I'm an evil, evil person and I'll rot in hell. Bad Dobby!!
  • by FredFredrickson ( 1177871 ) * on Friday April 25, 2008 @02:34PM (#23200960) Homepage Journal

    Try something new. Vote the Party out of office. That would be the first step.
    I've been trying since 2000! Hasn't worked yet. Maybe it's because on our new voting machine we have two options: Vote Republican, or "Button out-of-order"
  • by FranTaylor ( 164577 ) on Friday April 25, 2008 @03:33PM (#23201766)
    If they think they need a baby monitor to listen in on us.
  • by AioKits ( 1235070 ) on Friday April 25, 2008 @04:08PM (#23202264)

    Well, maybe you two can reach an agreement. :-P Ooooh, I'm an evil, evil person and I'll rot in hell. Bad Dobby!!
    The five year old gets to watch a him get laid by a pony? *hide*

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