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AU Government Demands Universal Wiretapping 236

Posted by Zonk
from the that-means-all-over-the-place dept.
StonyandCher writes "The Australian government is pushing a bill to force all telecommunications providers to facilitate lawful data interception across fixed and mobile telephone systems, Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP), Instant Messaging (IM) and chat room discussions. Sweeping reforms will make it easier than ever for law enforcement to intercept communications if amendments to the Telecommunications (Interceptions) Act are agreed upon by a Senate standing committee. This follows from a story earlier this week where the Australian government is legislating to allow employers to snoop on employees' email and IM conversations."
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AU Government Demands Universal Wiretapping

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  • by KlomDark (6370) on Thursday April 17, 2008 @05:10PM (#23111566) Homepage Journal
    Have they actually had any circumstances justifying such Draconian legislation?

    Or is this just a big power grab?

    If any country should be aware of the dangers of somewhat-haphazardly designating a large number of people as criminal/undesirable/incorrigible, it should be Australia. A whole bunch of supposedly worthless uncivilizable "criminals" shipped to Australia as "lost causes" turned the whole thing around and built themselves a nice place to live, and now they are fucking it back up themselves. Trying to turn most of themselves back into so-called "criminals".

    I do not understand.
  • by sqrt(2) (786011) on Thursday April 17, 2008 @05:46PM (#23111942) Journal
    You're assuming the state would retain full control and command of the entire armed forces. If something truly devastating to the fabric of democracy happened that shook us to the very core, I'm sure the military would not be spared in being divided. So you combine that with a populous of well armed resistance fighters acting as irregular forces along with what ever military and paramilitary groups that oppose the government, and you could have a successful resistance. History is full of examples of small, vastly out gunned forces defeating a large conventional army using asymmetric warfare. Look what happened to the US in Vietnam, or the Soviets in Afghanistan or now the US in Afghanistan/Iraq. And just on a personal level, I'd rather die in a shoot out than in front of a firing squad if those are the choices.
  • Re:Fitting for ... (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 17, 2008 @07:32PM (#23112698)
    I'd rather come from a land built on the sweat of criminals than one built on the sweat of slaves
  • by Mike89 (1006497) on Thursday April 17, 2008 @08:54PM (#23113220)

    Seems like voting NO is a no-brainer here.
    Voting no? Coming from an Australian, we don't have a choice.

    And fuck off they don't do this already. An Australian guy posted on 4chan [wikipedia.org] saying he was going to shoot up a mall in America (obviously bullshit). Someone, we managed to figure out who this guy was. How? Obviously 4chan is Anonymous. I seriously doubt they handed over his IP, because I seriously doubt they had it (highest turnover I've ever seen, thread would've died before the authorities did shit). Which leaves what? Data logging. Maybe not here, almost definitely there, but to me it's fucking scary that they tracked this guy down and tried to fine him a shitload ($20, 000 I recall), just because he was talking shit on some website.

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